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monty123
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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 1:54pm

The surgery that Christine is talkign about (ndrose) is the one Carter had! We have had both ways. If they do the new way it was a MUCH easier recovery than the other way. Dylan was a nightmare for a few weeks, and Carter was taking fluids that night. They were both between 18 months and 2 years for their adenoids. Carter had his tonsils out at the same time as adenoids, and Dylan went back and had them out a year after the first adenoid surgery.

The adenoids on Dylan grew back and I heard this is possible the earlier you take htem out, but I already see so much improvement in Carter's swallowing that I would do it again this young in a heartbeat! But again, check what way they are doing them because that new way is SOOOOO much easier than the other way but not all the doctors are doing that yet.

Good luck!!!!

Ann Marie
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Carter 3/25/06 (29 wkr, past GERD, Cardiac arrest w/Immunizations, syndromic features?, all neg tests so far)

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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 3:04pm

Amy, I'm late to this, but I'm so sorry to hear about Sarah's tubes. Boy, I'll be pissed if Ben's fall out that quickly. I need to pay off the first set before we have to get new ones!!!

Anyway, I don't have experience with adenoids, but dh had his out and tubes put in when he was two. My MIL has never mentioned it being a difficult recovery, but then, again, she tends to act like raising her kids was easy as pie.

I would also ask the ped. about the Zyrtec. I have had fluid in my ears and some infections lately (crazy, huh!) and the doc suggested using an allergy med. to help dry up the fluid.

Naomi - mom to

Claire 11/5/03 - former refluxer. Med. free at 9 months. Breastfed 17 months

Ben - 9/14/06 - former refluxer; TED for 6+months; med free at 20 months. Breastfed 21 months

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Posted: 21 January 2008 at 10:44pm

Thank you so much for the info everyone! I am definitely going to inquire about this new method of adenoid removal. Sounds much easier! I was discouraged to read elsewhere and hear from you guys that it can be a long miserable recovery with possible hospitalization. Cry

Hearing you mention allergy meds made me realize that the ENT mentioned nasonex at our visit but it wasn't prescribed. I called him today to double check and sure enough...he forgot to give it to us! So I'm hopeful that the low dose antibiotic along with the nasonex will dry up the fluid in her ears and maybe we can avoid surgery altogether!

I'm thinking now if we DO have to do surgery (tubes and adenoids) that I'll try to schedule it over our spring break so at least I won't have to take too much time off if things don't go well. (and the hospital is 1.5 hours from home) I think our break is mid March...hopefully the ENT will say we can wait that long. Confused

(Although DH might disagree...that will be right in the midst of baseball season...TOO BAD!)

The ENT did say that Sarah's speech should NOT be as good as it is given the fluid in her ears and her history...but her speech took off when she had tubes. I will be so sad if she regresses now that she has standing fluid again. Disapprove

Amy
Sarah 4/25/06 Med free!
Emma 11/23/09 Reflux and Neocate

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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 8:41pm

UPDATE! We had our 30 day follow up today with the ENT following our antibiotic/nasonex trial. Much to my surprise the fluid in Sarah's ear DRAMATICALLY IMPROVED and he is NOT recommending surgery anymore!!! HIP HIP HOORAY!!! He said b/c it is so close to spring he thinks we can hold off. We're going to continue with just the nasonex for 6 more weeks and then follow up with him at 10 weeks. He said hopefully that would be our LAST visit with him!

I am so relieved and excited for her. He said he would have only given us a 20% chance of success based on our last visit so he was just as surprised as we were to find out that the fluid in her ears has improved!

He did say that she has a little fluid in her left ear which MAY decide to turn into an ear infection. He gave us a prescription and told me not to fill it until I was sure it was infected...(I feel like a pro when it comes to diagnosing/suspecting her ear infections!) At least it saves me another co-pay since I already have the rx! Woo-hooooooooooooo!

Amy
Sarah 4/25/06 Med free!
Emma 11/23/09 Reflux and Neocate

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Posted: 16 February 2008 at 6:48am

Great news Amy, I hope the 10 week check up goes as well as this one did.

Beth
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Posted: 20 February 2008 at 6:02pm

Wow! That is awesome news! I hope she continues to do well and can avoid surgery.

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Posted: 29 February 2008 at 9:10pm

We got a 2nd set of tubes today and adenoids removed and I can't say that it was much worse than the first set. We went at 6:15 and were home by 11 and he was crabby, but drank a 16 oz of pedialyte within the first hour, so I think he will be fine. He did throw up, mostly mucous stuff a couple of times as he was crying when they brought him out. He was not impressed with the nurses. They didn't even need an IV or anything so I was happy about that.

It is beautiful here and girls state basketball this weekend so we decided to get out and shop a little and eat out. I think he might have a slight sore throat b/c he whines a little when he coughs, but ate like a champ. And it gave me an excuse to get some ice cream to share!

I would say the biggest thing I was worried about is his speech b/c he really doesn't say more than "da, uh oh, ouch, hi, and bye" and he's almost 17 mo and my pedi says "18 words by 18 mo" is the rule of thumb and he's nowhere near that. I also know the 2nd is a little slower to talk, but his speech is not something I wanted to mess with.

Glad you didn't have to go through the tubes! I was also not wanting to do it so close to summer, but we really had no choice. He had constant ear infection and fluid that antibiotics just didn't cut.

Erica mom to Griffin Jan '04-- Owen Oct '06 MSPI/reflux survivor

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Posted: 29 February 2008 at 9:41pm

someone asked about what happens when the tubes come out----they come out of the ear canal----they don't get swallowed.

christine

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Posted: 01 March 2008 at 8:40am

I am SOOOOOOOO glad to hear things went well! I was thinking about you guys yesterday!! It sounds like he pulled through fantastically! I hope his
recovery continues to be such a breeze! Sarah had her first tubes put in JUNE 4th of last year so I know what you mean about summer months...but we also had no choice! Thank you for the update!!!!

Amy
Sarah 4/25/06 Med free!
Emma 11/23/09 Reflux and Neocate

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Posted: 01 September 2010 at 9:23pm

My son had a set of tubes put in and kept getting ear infections. the ENT wanted to take out his adenoids and put a different kind of tubes in. they took out his adenoids and put titanium tubes in. they actually can culture the adenoids to find out why they keep getting ear infections. they cultured my son's and found a bacteria called strep pneumo. the only treatment was an IV antibiotic for 2 weeks. since the IV antibiotic we have been ear infection free and that was done about a month ago. hope this helps! having the adenoids out was a very easy surgery though. he was playing and stuff the same day. didnt have to give him anything but regular tylenol!!

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monty123 Senior Member Joined: 03 August 2003 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2673	Posted: 21 January 2008 at 1:54pm
	The surgery that Christine is talkign about (ndrose) is the one Carter had! We have had both ways. If they do the new way it was a MUCH easier recovery than the other way. Dylan was a nightmare for a few weeks, and Carter was taking fluids that night. They were both between 18 months and 2 years for their adenoids. Carter had his tonsils out at the same time as adenoids, and Dylan went back and had them out a year after the first adenoid surgery. The adenoids on Dylan grew back and I heard this is possible the earlier you take htem out, but I already see so much improvement in Carter's swallowing that I would do it again this young in a heartbeat! But again, check what way they are doing them because that new way is SOOOOO much easier than the other way but not all the doctors are doing that yet. Good luck!!!!
	Ann Marie Dylan 2/28/03 (27 wkr, past GERD, NEC, ROP, GBS/meningitis, brain bleed) Carter 3/25/06 (29 wkr, past GERD, Cardiac arrest w/Immunizations, syndromic features?, all neg tests so far)
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Bensmama Junior Member Joined: 05 November 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1831	Posted: 21 January 2008 at 3:04pm
	Amy, I'm late to this, but I'm so sorry to hear about Sarah's tubes. Boy, I'll be pissed if Ben's fall out that quickly. I need to pay off the first set before we have to get new ones!!! Anyway, I don't have experience with adenoids, but dh had his out and tubes put in when he was two. My MIL has never mentioned it being a difficult recovery, but then, again, she tends to act like raising her kids was easy as pie. I would also ask the ped. about the Zyrtec. I have had fluid in my ears and some infections lately (crazy, huh!) and the doc suggested using an allergy med. to help dry up the fluid.
	Naomi - mom to Claire 11/5/03 - former refluxer. Med. free at 9 months. Breastfed 17 months Ben - 9/14/06 - former refluxer; TED for 6+months; med free at 20 months. Breastfed 21 months
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amy0013 Junior Member Joined: 18 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1793	Posted: 21 January 2008 at 10:44pm
	Thank you so much for the info everyone! I am definitely going to inquire about this new method of adenoid removal. Sounds much easier! I was discouraged to read elsewhere and hear from you guys that it can be a long miserable recovery with possible hospitalization. Hearing you mention allergy meds made me realize that the ENT mentioned nasonex at our visit but it wasn't prescribed. I called him today to double check and sure enough...he forgot to give it to us! So I'm hopeful that the low dose antibiotic along with the nasonex will dry up the fluid in her ears and maybe we can avoid surgery altogether! I'm thinking now if we DO have to do surgery (tubes and adenoids) that I'll try to schedule it over our spring break so at least I won't have to take too much time off if things don't go well. (and the hospital is 1.5 hours from home) I think our break is mid March...hopefully the ENT will say we can wait that long. (Although DH might disagree...that will be right in the midst of baseball season...TOO BAD!) The ENT did say that Sarah's speech should NOT be as good as it is given the fluid in her ears and her history...but her speech took off when she had tubes. I will be so sad if she regresses now that she has standing fluid again.
	Amy Sarah 4/25/06 Med free! Emma 11/23/09 Reflux and Neocate
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amy0013 Junior Member Joined: 18 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1793	Posted: 15 February 2008 at 8:41pm
	UPDATE! We had our 30 day follow up today with the ENT following our antibiotic/nasonex trial. Much to my surprise the fluid in Sarah's ear DRAMATICALLY IMPROVED and he is NOT recommending surgery anymore!!! HIP HIP HOORAY!!! He said b/c it is so close to spring he thinks we can hold off. We're going to continue with just the nasonex for 6 more weeks and then follow up with him at 10 weeks. He said hopefully that would be our LAST visit with him! I am so relieved and excited for her. He said he would have only given us a 20% chance of success based on our last visit so he was just as surprised as we were to find out that the fluid in her ears has improved! He did say that she has a little fluid in her left ear which MAY decide to turn into an ear infection. He gave us a prescription and told me not to fill it until I was sure it was infected...(I feel like a pro when it comes to diagnosing/suspecting her ear infections!) At least it saves me another co-pay since I already have the rx! Woo-hooooooooooooo!
	Amy Sarah 4/25/06 Med free! Emma 11/23/09 Reflux and Neocate
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Cooper's mom Junior Member Joined: 12 May 2007 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2248	Posted: 16 February 2008 at 6:48am
	Great news Amy, I hope the 10 week check up goes as well as this one did.
	Beth Cooper 2/07 (former refluxer and MSPI. out grew egg allergy at 3.5yrs old) Caroline 1/10 Reflux FREE!!!
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Bryce'sMom Junior Member Joined: 18 August 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1543	Posted: 20 February 2008 at 6:02pm
	Wow! That is awesome news! I hope she continues to do well and can avoid surgery.
	Heather Mom to: Isaac - 12/22/02 Parker - 09/06/04 Bryce - 12/9/05 <a href="http://lilypie.com">[IMG]http://b2.lilypie.com/SrtSm7/.pn
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Erica Groupie Joined: 27 March 2007 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 612	Posted: 29 February 2008 at 9:10pm
	We got a 2nd set of tubes today and adenoids removed and I can't say that it was much worse than the first set. We went at 6:15 and were home by 11 and he was crabby, but drank a 16 oz of pedialyte within the first hour, so I think he will be fine. He did throw up, mostly mucous stuff a couple of times as he was crying when they brought him out. He was not impressed with the nurses. They didn't even need an IV or anything so I was happy about that. It is beautiful here and girls state basketball this weekend so we decided to get out and shop a little and eat out. I think he might have a slight sore throat b/c he whines a little when he coughs, but ate like a champ. And it gave me an excuse to get some ice cream to share! I would say the biggest thing I was worried about is his speech b/c he really doesn't say more than "da, uh oh, ouch, hi, and bye" and he's almost 17 mo and my pedi says "18 words by 18 mo" is the rule of thumb and he's nowhere near that. I also know the 2nd is a little slower to talk, but his speech is not something I wanted to mess with. Glad you didn't have to go through the tubes! I was also not wanting to do it so close to summer, but we really had no choice. He had constant ear infection and fluid that antibiotics just didn't cut.
	Erica mom to Griffin Jan '04-- Owen Oct '06 MSPI/reflux survivor
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kevieb Senior Member Joined: 02 December 2003 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 3539	Posted: 29 February 2008 at 9:41pm
	someone asked about what happens when the tubes come out----they come out of the ear canal----they don't get swallowed.
	christine leif 83 daisy 85 ian 89 kassandra 91 reflux celiac tianna 91 reflux celiac molly 95 celiac elliot 97 samantha 99 sylvia 10/6/03 fundoplication hiatal hernia repair 7/29/04
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amy0013 Junior Member Joined: 18 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1793	Posted: 01 March 2008 at 8:40am
	I am SOOOOOOOO glad to hear things went well! I was thinking about you guys yesterday!! It sounds like he pulled through fantastically! I hope his recovery continues to be such a breeze! Sarah had her first tubes put in JUNE 4th of last year so I know what you mean about summer months...but we also had no choice! Thank you for the update!!!!
	Amy Sarah 4/25/06 Med free! Emma 11/23/09 Reflux and Neocate
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tylersmommy Newbie Joined: 26 August 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3	Posted: 01 September 2010 at 9:23pm
	My son had a set of tubes put in and kept getting ear infections. the ENT wanted to take out his adenoids and put a different kind of tubes in. they took out his adenoids and put titanium tubes in. they actually can culture the adenoids to find out why they keep getting ear infections. they cultured my son's and found a bacteria called strep pneumo. the only treatment was an IV antibiotic for 2 weeks. since the IV antibiotic we have been ear infection free and that was done about a month ago. hope this helps! having the adenoids out was a very easy surgery though. he was playing and stuff the same day. didnt have to give him anything but regular tylenol!!
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