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Kelly
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Joined: 14 December 2004 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 157 |
Posted: 23 September 2005 at 10:11pm |
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Kelly Indiana
Mya- Lap Nissen, GJ-tube, Laryngomalacia, Metabolic Disorder,Sleep Apnea, Aspirates, Central Line, TPN, Prevacid, Reglan, Carafate, Mylanta, Neocate,Simply thick |
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Anne
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Joined: 16 February 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1079 |
Posted: 06 October 2005 at 6:01am |
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Kelly, I just read this whole thing and I'm horrified. I really will be praying for you and Mya and hoping that she's in good hands while she is away from you. I think I would go over the edge, so I don't know how you are holding up so well, but you sound so strong on these posts. Please keep us posted if you can and keep the faith. HANG IN THERE!!! I'm sending big hugs your way. |
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Anne-37 Ryan-40
Lucas 9/18/04 Hiatal hernia, mult protein intol Zegerid, probiotics Bfed 2 yrs still no dairy/gluten/oats Norah- 9/12/08 zeg., b-fed 2 yrs, no dairy/nuts/corn/soy Night waking |
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Eli'smom
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Joined: 21 October 2004 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1355 |
Posted: 19 October 2005 at 12:17am |
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Does anyone else find it interesting that we have not heard a word from Kelly in days? I have noticed her status is online several times a day (meaning she's reading our posts) but has not said a word since suspicions were raised that perhaps she truely is acting in a criminal mannor towards her child. I guess the experts are correct when they say the best way to rid your forum of an MBP person is to call them on the inconsistencies and discrepencies in their "story". I continue to pray for dear little Mya, I hope that her life improves and she is free from permanent injury or harm. No one ever wants to believe that their worst suspicions are true, but in this case it appears so. Maybe all of us could remember Mya in our prayers, that she will be protected from harm, and that she may find a loving home where she can grown healthy and strong and reach her full potential. I guess as a final caution I would remind all that the best way to discourage MBP behavior is to confront the incredible and ignore the attempts to solicit sympathy, concern, advice, or even "chit chat" from a known MBP. Thanks for listening.... may we continue on in our forum, a little wiser,and a little more informed. Thank you all for being the wonderful resource that infantreflux.org is, it is amazing to be part of a network of women (mostly) helping other women to overcome what is often the biggest obstacle thus far in their lives. Everyone give your sweet little angels a big hug and kiss and wish the same for all babies, everywhere. Sincerely, Tracy |
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Tracy 40 ID
Larry 47 Casey '86 Asthma,enviro-allergies Jessica '88 GERD Emily '91 Corinne '98 Jared '00 Eli 9/03 NO GERD,FPIES controlled,some asthma,food allergies,eczema NO MEDS!! neocate |
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kevieb
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Joined: 02 December 2003 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 3539 |
Posted: 19 October 2005 at 11:23am |
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mya needs our prayers---but i think that kelly could probably use some prayers also-----if all this is true about her, she certainly needs some help in overcoming this behavior---if it is POSSIBLE to overcome it. does anyone else find themselves being afraid of showing that you have any medical knowledge above what the average person might know about something----just in case people might think you are "too involved" to be just a concerned parent? i love to look things up on the internet (i have actually sat in front of my computer and thought "what can i look up now"?) my husband made a comment about me knowing a medical condition that a nurse at the hospital had to say "what is that?" to me, and my sister, yesterday, made a comment about me knowing a medical term that she had never heard of. before children, i used to be really smart, but i almost feel like ineed to play dumb so that i won't look "suspicious". it is such a shame that the actions of others can affect us all in so many ways. |
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christine
leif 83 daisy 85 ian 89 kassandra 91 reflux celiac tianna 91 reflux celiac molly 95 celiac elliot 97 samantha 99 sylvia 10/6/03 fundoplication hiatal hernia repair 7/29/04 |
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Kelly
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Joined: 14 December 2004 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 157 |
Posted: 19 October 2005 at 12:12pm |
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First I will address everone. We all have the right to say or feel what we want about anyone. I have never sade anything to people when I truly knew they were clueless. I have been around for a couple days but not responding for several reasons. One I have been busy with info for attorney. Also, my husband had read a couple responses and asked me why it mattered to me that these people were saying. I told him that half the information we ever got was off this board and helped us in times of need. Also, I told him I felt like I truly cared for these women and knew what they were going through. In a letter that one mom wrote she said you post one line about Mya on your carepages but wrote about all the other kids. First, I was adviced to not write on the pages at all and felt all my family that doesn't live near want to know that we saw her and she was happy. Also, all those other KIDS are alot more to Matt and I than just kids. These kids and there parents are apart of my family. I still talk to all of them and my extended family had meet most while visiting the hospital and couple even came back to my inlaws on a leave from hospital for a cook out. So for one that doesn't even know me to just imply that they are just kids makes me angry. I know I have been hard headed and not willing to do some things, but I also know I did nothing to hurt Mya. My 2 attorneys called yesterday and NO WHERE in any of Mya's medical records does it saw they are worring about me or my actions. Yes I did refuse green beans, but I wish all of you could see Mya's bottom and vaginal area. They have changed her formula and are feeding solids and she is blistered to know end. My husband and I discussed this all weekend and there is NOTHING we can do. We called attorney and he said there is basically nothing we can do. We filed for a emergency hearing 3 weeks ago. We still don't have a date for the emergency hearing. That is how slow the system works. Also its funny that my family doc who is so adament about the Munchausen that he is refusing to give a deposition. Why being a doctor and you think what you think would you not just give a deposition. He had to be supenoed yesterday. Also we had to open a case in ohio to get doctors over there to give depositions. They are not wanting to participate either. WHY? The one doc said he had gut feeling, wouldn't ya like to know how many previous gut feelings he had. He is even more adament that he doesn't want to testify. I would think if you believed a mom was hurting her baby you would step up and say what you saw. Oh ya the doctor in Ohio NEVER even saw Mya for 1 sec. She was in Playroom both days. All this is documented. This doctor in the records even says that Mya is in playroom and happy reported by staff. But in letter he wrote to state it says that Mya appears normal, pretty good guess since he never saw her. There are many things Tracy that you don't know about .. I have my whole family and friends that are 100% behind me. These are all people that have stayed in my house and I have stayed at theres and they have lived Mya's life with Matt and I. Also I come to thes boards because I thought I could help others still. I beet you didn't know that I sent over 300 packets of Thickener to a mom, no charge and I sent 8 cans of Neocate to a mom, no charge. I do care about my daughter and others well being no matter what anyone thinks. Think about this if you were in my spot. You have no other children, you can't work because of charges pending, your husband works in another state(because Dr. Putnam told us many times we really needed to move to monitor her better) , what would you do with 24 hrs for months on end. We can see Mya 1 hr a week and can't call or have anyother contact with her. We can't even call the case worker to see how she is doing during the week. Trust me when I say I have researched, I go to chrch, neighborhood 40days of purpose prayer meetings and mow several lawns during the week. All my friends work, family work so pretty much I am left to sit her and think about my child. Sometimes I drive over to ohio to be with my husband at night. I emailed people the yellow shirt thing because I thought it was touching. I once made a comment that laughed and then I said Ha ha. For all of this I was critized as not thinking of my daughter. There are days were if I try not to think about the situation I think I can make it through the day and if I start pondering on the subject I bet myself up for opening my mouth. If you guys were in my position you would be lost just as I am. I cry all the time and hardly leave house. So I know I personally am a good person. I didn't come back to the boards because I figured you all had your thoughts and concerns and who was I to try and fight for your friendship. You people have no clue about me and my life as do I have no clue about your life. But I do pray everynight for this board and the kids. I will continue to do so. But I won't be back since there are several that have there opinions and I don't want them to be mad I am here instead of doing whatever they would be doing in my situation. I do want to thank everyone because I have learned on this site and was very greatful at the time for the information. Also I noticed that people that still had concerns about me wre visiting Mya's site. I will be updating it on Fridays when we see her but it will be very limited since I can't really put anything we see when we visit. Just that we saw her and it was great. Thanks Kelly |
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Kelly Indiana
Mya- Lap Nissen, GJ-tube, Laryngomalacia, Metabolic Disorder,Sleep Apnea, Aspirates, Central Line, TPN, Prevacid, Reglan, Carafate, Mylanta, Neocate,Simply thick |
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kattmc3
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Joined: 23 April 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1063 |
Posted: 19 October 2005 at 2:31pm |
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Kelly, First of all you need to stop and think about what Tracy said. You are always saying two things. You made the comment about not wanting to take an 8 hour test but then you turned around and said you were going to take the test. Second read your post it is full of poor little me comments. I am sorry for your daughter and I have read the care pages to see how she is doing. Tracy only posted facts and opened my eyes to your games. I again ask you to read how in this post you are talking only about yourself and how your husband lives in another state and how you are alone. Well Mya is without family and that is the sadest thing I can think of. Now I am upset because I think about that beautiful little girl who is the one suffering by your hand and I hear no remorse in your post. How dare you comment about how someone comment on you. I apoligize to everyone else for my post but I am beond angry. Tracy I stand by you with your comments and I feel you hit the nail on the head with this one. Thanks for opening my eyes. |
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Kathleen (37) Colton 3/18/05. Zegerid 28mg. daily, Neocate to Goodstart with rice cereal.
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Kelly
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Joined: 14 December 2004 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 157 |
Posted: 19 October 2005 at 4:40pm |
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Kathleen, I am sorry I said I did not want to take a test. I really didn't but there was never a time that I wasn't going to take it. Have you taken this test. It is not anything one would ever think you would take. If required me to match blocks to a picture, do math problems ,pronounce and give definitions. Oh ya it cost $2500 after $20,000 has already been spent. Sorry but my family is not made of money and it hurts to see everyone dig in there retirement funds and second mortage there houses. I am sure if this was you in my spot your head wouldn't be clear all the time. I never said I wasn't guilty of anything. I know my attitude and mouth got me in alot of trouble, but I can absolutely tell you I did nothing to hurt my child. I don't care what you think because you have no clue about Mya's real problems. I am wondering what you want me to say about Mya. I love her more than anything in the world and I am doing above and beyond what is asked of me. Like I said before , she is still sick with diarrhea. Can you explain that? She is losing weight? can you explain that. Ya I can't explain that since she isn't in my care. Seems the other docs can't either. Could it be she is allergic to food, could it be the new formula. I am not sure what you people want me to say about Mya, I have tried my best as a parent and I am sure there are things I have done that could have been different or I should have researched. You will see when this goes to court the outcome. If you guys truly believe I am guilty then why continue to read care pages if I am thought to be not truthful. thanks kelly |
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Kelly Indiana
Mya- Lap Nissen, GJ-tube, Laryngomalacia, Metabolic Disorder,Sleep Apnea, Aspirates, Central Line, TPN, Prevacid, Reglan, Carafate, Mylanta, Neocate,Simply thick |
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kattmc3
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Joined: 23 April 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1063 |
Posted: 19 October 2005 at 5:32pm |
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You bring up a good point about carepages and I won't read them anymore. I would dare anyone to read your post and see how many times you say I, and me. Again you contradict yourself by saying in other post that Mya is gaining weight and in this last post you are saying she is losing weight. Is that correct? I don't give a crap about money when it comes to my child. I would sell everything I had to care for my child and I would do anything a court asks of me and even more. I would be asking the court what else I could do for my son. You made a comment that I didn't answer to in your post before this one. You said you go to church but I know many people who go to church who are not good people. So going to church does not make you a good person. Plus by giving away things like simply thick and neocate that also is supposed to make you a good person? If you love your child more than anything in the world you would seek help for yourself. It doesn't matter if you are guilty or not of the claims of MBP. You are guilty of not doing everything humanly possible to get your daughter back. Quit bit$%ing about the money and do what the court ask. If you have tried your best to be a good parent then it wasn't really good enough or your daughter would be in your care right now. I have never heard of a case where a child is removed from a home and not placed with family unless there was no family. There is more to this story than you tell. What I ask of everyone is to read Kelly's posts more than once and notice how she is so consumed with herself. We only hear of Matt when its convenient to make us feel sorry for Kelly. For instance Matt didn't get to go with her on her birthday to see Mya or Matt lives in another state so she doesn't get to see him and she has to travel 2 hours to see him. Read it closely and notice the times she speaks about how bad things are for her. Well what about Mya? She lives in a strangers house. She doesn't have family there to tuck her in at night. She is the one who has been in the hospital having countless surgeries and i.v.'s. She is the one who didn't gain weight like she should have. I believe that Mya may have been born sick but I also believe that Kelly has also made her sick. These are my beliefs. If I am wrong than it is what I will live with. I am just asking that you read her post closely so that you can read between the lines. Kelly I have told you this before. Do what the court tells you to do and don't bitch about it. Quit being defiant and help yourself. |
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Kathleen (37) Colton 3/18/05. Zegerid 28mg. daily, Neocate to Goodstart with rice cereal.
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Eli'smom
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Joined: 21 October 2004 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1355 |
Posted: 19 October 2005 at 9:13pm |
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To be fair to Kelly I just want to let you all know that I did contact her in private before I posted any of my suspicions on here. My letter was completely ignored, it as if I had written a "hi there, how are you?" e-mail. It was then that I realized for sure that there was a problem. One of the most interesting things about this whole thing that I've noticed is that it's not what Kelly has "done" that has alerted anyone, it's her own words that are damning her right now. No one can read her posts on Mya's care pages without coming away with that "something is NOT right here" feeling. Mostly it's the absence of feeling or empathy towards her own child that is chilling. Her confusion and outrage when she says " I am not sure what you people want me to say about Mya," is a good indication that the maternal feelings are just NOT there. How many of us wouldn't know what to say about our child if anyone questioned our care for them? I know I for one could write an epistle about each and every one of my six children, impromptu. So here's the facts (just the facts ma'am I'll post this now, and put the "info" in asap, I lost this post once, and my fingers are tired, so I dare not reduce it to go get the "info" again! lol As always~ Tracy This was sent 10/17/2005 at 4:07 pm Kelly, hi, it's Tracy. I'm a little concerned, and I wanted to talk to you directly (so to speak) before I posted in the forum. Kelly, I have to be honest with you, due to the discrepencies in your posts, and frankly, the feeling that you're not the same person (or at least not in the same place emotionally) every time you post, that there really is something going on with you. I don't know if you have Munchausen by proxy, I honestly don't know you well enough to even guess that. But I do know from reading your posts, that there seems to be something lacking when you speak about your daughter. From the care pages posts where you sometimes don't mention her at all, or you mention her in one line, kind of as an afterthought, to the way that when you talk about her being taken away, you speak almost exclusively about yourself, how this is affecting you, how angry you are, how your'e going to "fight this for the rest of your life, so it doesn't happen to anyone else" etc. I just don't get the feeling that you're thinking of Mya in any of this. Your baby is on her own, and you're posting in halloween costume forums, or talking about some kids you met in the hospital. Or forwarding jokes and things to others.... What about MYA??
I know this is a delicate subject, and nobody wants to ever think they may have a problem, but what I'm suggesting Kelly, is that you get some psychological help. A counselor that could help you understand why the world seems to perceive you as someone that could and may have harmed their own child. (Or at least subjected them to medical procedures that may not have been in their best interest.) And also perhaps they could help you understand the normal bonding process, help you to feel what most mom's do about their children, that they are the entire universe and we would rather die than see them hurting. These are the feelings and emotions that I personally have felt are lacking in your posts. I am not alone. There are several moms from the forum that are concerned that you have a problem that needs to be addressed.
Kelly, if you embrace this opportunity to get help, you cannot believe the happiness and joy you can and will experience as Mya's mother. SHE needs YOU~ However, she needs a mentally healthy mother who will do anything to see that her daughter is protected in every way. Mya was sent to your home for a purpose, and if you allow yourself to deny this problem, you will never be able to fulfill the purpose you have in being Mya's mother. Please don't let something you can change affect the rest of your daughter's life! If you can, think of your daughter, your husband , and all that you have to gain by getting help. And think of the relief of the burdeon you have been carrying; if you ask for help, and put that burdeon down, you will be amazed at how you can grow and change.
I know that my words will not be met with gladness, but I feel so strongly that innocent babies should never be harmed, that I had to speak up. Please take these words in the spirit they were intended, as a concerned mom who would like nothing more than to see you healthy and well, united with your healthy and well daughter. Know also Kelly, that The Lord is there to help you, all you need to do is ask for guidance and strength, and he will help you in your righteous endeavors.
I will continue to pray for you and Mya, that you both may be strong and well~ Tracy Edited by Eli'smom |
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Tracy 40 ID
Larry 47 Casey '86 Asthma,enviro-allergies Jessica '88 GERD Emily '91 Corinne '98 Jared '00 Eli 9/03 NO GERD,FPIES controlled,some asthma,food allergies,eczema NO MEDS!! neocate |
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Eli'smom
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Joined: 21 October 2004 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1355 |
Posted: 19 October 2005 at 9:21pm |
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P.S. I would LOVE to hear from Matt (when he "reads" these posts, it would be nice to know what he thinks, in his own words)
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Tracy 40 ID
Larry 47 Casey '86 Asthma,enviro-allergies Jessica '88 GERD Emily '91 Corinne '98 Jared '00 Eli 9/03 NO GERD,FPIES controlled,some asthma,food allergies,eczema NO MEDS!! neocate |
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