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March 25, 2007 at 5:32 pm #28455

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OK ladies, I need some advice. I’ve been lurking around here for nearly a

year, and thought I was even done, but have returned as we are still not

sleeping well.

My ds turned one last weekend. He was/is a silent refluxer, and went

through a rough patch starting around 6 weeks. We had him on Zantac,

then Zegerid, and finally weaned him off that about 2 months ago (need

to update my sig). His main symptom is poor sleep. He was at one point

waking every hour to nurse, and after some gentle sleep training is now

only waking 2-4 times per night. On good nights he wakes up and only

makes noises until I come feed him. On bad nights, he wakes up

screaming. Last night was one of those nights. I had given him some

yogurt that morning, and he was as far as I could tell refluxing again at

night, and required Mylanta before I could get him back down, after

which he did a 4-hour stretch (good, for him).

I did TED for about 2 months, had a soy slip up, tried again, and never

seemed to get the same results, so gave it up. He occasionally takes

Good Start formula, but otherwise I haven’t given him much dairy. He is

underweight, so in the last couple of weeks I have tried both tofu and

yogurt, and each time he had bad nights. After the tofu he even spit up

some during the day, rare for him.

So finally to my question! If nightwaking is really the only symptom he

has (no skin, respiratory, or bowel issues), is it likely that he is dairy/soy

intolerant? I have a feeling I know the answer, and that I will need to go

dairy/soy free again, but am still wanting some input.

March 25, 2007 at 6:56 pm #28456

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I’m wondering why he’s underweight. If he’s not throwing up, then he’s not taking in enough to gain weight steadily. Are you sure he’s not eating less than he needs because he still has reflux pain?

That (his underweight), his night wakings, and the fact that he slept 4 hours after a dose of Mylanta makes me suspect the he still needs to be on a PPI.

March 25, 2007 at 7:18 pm #28459

Anonymous
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ditto what CHristine said.

March 25, 2007 at 7:40 pm #28460

Anonymous
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I’m personally not worried about his weight–he is the same weight my

dd was at this age, and they are both very tall…the doc is just concerned

(and on the conservative side) bec. he went from 50th, to 25th to 10th

percentile at his last 3 visits. But he was born at 9 lbs 5 oz (two weeks

early), and dd was 9-15, so they started out rather big, and then tapered

off. He is just not that into solids. He is very cautious, putting things in

him mouth now, but spitting out probaby 80%, and I’m trying not to push

him–he is a self feeder, and usually flat out refuses anything by spoon.

I understand what you both feel about the PPI, but honestly, after a while

it didn’t make a bit of difference in how well he slept, and I didn’t feel it

was worth medicating him 3xs a day when he slept the same either way.

(He was on the max Marci kids dose, and I didn’t want to go higher). I’ve

recently started giving him Zantac again at bedtime, and have considered

giving him one dose of Zegerid instead (we have some leftover). Does

anyone know the efficacy of that? He is, and has nearly always been, fine

during the day.

March 25, 2007 at 8:03 pm #28463

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i would try pepcid complete at night. zantac did nothing for my son. the pepcid is over the counter, dr phillips gave me directions. also the h2 blocker has to be 4 hours apart from a PPI

March 25, 2007 at 8:36 pm #28466

hellbennt
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yes I think nightwaking can be a sign of mspi

do a search for posts by lovemysophia

she tells how she finally put it together at about the same age your son is & she cut out all milk & soy and sleep improved a LOT

HTH

March 25, 2007 at 10:50 pm #28474

Anonymous
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Laura, I think many of her posts might be missing. There is a big gap

between 11/04 and 8/05, and then a post mentioning hackers? I’m

feeling more and more like I’ll have to settle in for a few weeks dairy/soy

free.

I’ve been contemplating trying the Pepcid complete–Natalia, do you

think it would be a better idea than a single dose of Zegerid? I restarted

the Zantac about 5 nights ago, and have seen an improvement. He has

had several nights with 5 hour stretches in the beginning of the night,

and even a night where he only woke up twice. I think much of the time

he wakes out of habit, and because I feed him, I reinforce that. I don’t

begrudge him the calories at this point though, and don’t even mind

twice a night. It’s rare that he wakes up crying though, so it’s pretty

apparent when he is hurting. Even in those instances it only takes 5

minutes to nurse him back down. oh, he’s up…

March 26, 2007 at 8:17 am #28482

hellbennt
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unfortunately thre WAS a hijacker- we lost a year of posts, can you imagine???

anyway, scroll to her posts:

https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7650&a mp;KW=lovemysophia

https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6998&a mp;KW=lovemysophia&PN=0&TPN=2

https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5114&a mp;KW=lovemysophia&PN=0&TPN=3

https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4886&a mp;KW=lovemysophia

https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/search.asp?KW=lovemysophia &SM=1&SI=AR&FM=0&OB=2&SPN=5

March 26, 2007 at 9:51 am #28485

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i dont know if pepcid would be more beneficial then a single dose of zegerid, but i can tell you that pepcid complete (not just regular pepcid) is more effective than just zantac. the complete is an acid reducer (similair to zantac, but contains famotidine instead) plus an antacid ( like mylanta) in one.

March 26, 2007 at 10:01 am #28487

Anonymous
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Laura, thanks for taking the time to put those links together, they are

helpful. He had another good night last night, only woke twice. I think I’ll

wait one more night, and then challenge the dairy again before I decide. If

he reacts, I’ll probably wait several months before trying again.

I know I sound like such a wimp about going off dairy, but I did the TED for

what felt like such a long time, and was neither eating nor sleeping, and

really hit a low point that I’m trying to avoid again. I know there are

mommies out there who having been living without for much longer…

March 26, 2007 at 10:05 am #28491

Anonymous
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I think we’ll try the Pepcid complete tonight, thanks. Last night I gave

Zantac at bedtime, and then Mylanta when he woke at 3. Unfortunately, the

other side effect of the nightfeeding is that he woke early at 6, completely

soaked, then proceeded to wake dd up.

What dose do you give, and how much does your LO weigh?

March 26, 2007 at 10:06 am #28492

Anonymous
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i dunno jsut a thought….you can always try neocate. my son was like a different child when i got him off of alimentum and switched to neocate (which the ped said were basically the same….umm so not true!)

March 26, 2007 at 10:15 am #28494

Anonymous
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He seems to tolerate the Goodstart well enough (I work, so he gets about

4-6 bottles of it per week), but I wonder if he can’t eat dairy directly, should

I avoid the protein in ALL of it’s forms…

March 26, 2007 at 10:57 am #28498

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sdelo wrote: I think we’ll try the Pepcid complete tonight, thanks. Last night I gave
Zantac at bedtime, and then Mylanta when he woke at 3. Unfortunately, the
other side effect of the nightfeeding is that he woke early at 6, completely
soaked, then proceeded to wake dd up.

What dose do you give, and how much does your LO weigh?

i dissolve half a chewable tablet in a teaspoon of water. he is 18 lbs. you can email Dr phillips too though.

March 26, 2007 at 10:58 am #28499

Anonymous
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sdelo wrote: He seems to tolerate the Goodstart well enough (I work, so he gets about
4-6 bottles of it per week), but I wonder if he can’t eat dairy directly, should
I avoid the protein in ALL of it’s forms…

but the fact that he isnt sleeping well can show a milk intolerance. good start is milk based.
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