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June 18, 2007 at 1:39 pm #37116
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InactiveI’ve been reading more and more lately that soy based formulas are bad for babies b/c it messes with baby’s hormones causing them (the babies) to develop way too early. Have you ever heard of this before? What do you know of the subject? I’m really concerned b/c Ariella’s been on Soy based formula since she was 2 months.
June 18, 2007 at 1:43 pm #37118Anonymous
Inactiveyes-thus is the reason i will be avoiding soy after doing a little extensive research. this is just my personal desicion though.
read this article:
Whole Soy Story: The Dark Side of America’s Favorite Health Food
i am really into natural living and consider myself to be very health conscious. theres a lot of things in this world we cannot control. but things like our diets, we can usually control, so i try to nourish my body with good things and lots of organics.
nataliachick72007-6-18 13:43:28
June 18, 2007 at 1:58 pm #37121Anonymous
InactiveNatalia, thank you for the article.
We have a big problem. We tried to give Ariella milk based formula a few weeks ago and she would not take it if her life depended on it. I kept trying the whole day and I ended up giving her soy based b/c I didn’t want her to get dehydrated. She just would not take even one oz of milk based formula. Any tricks anyone know to “wean” her off soy?
June 18, 2007 at 2:06 pm #37122Anonymous
InactiveOh my G-d!!! I’m freaking out here. I just read the article and I feel like I crippled Ariella. What do I do? How do I wean her off the soy based formula????
June 18, 2007 at 2:10 pm #37123Anonymous
Inactivedo u think she can handle milk protein?
if so, start the transition VERY slowly-most babies that age dont do well with the cold turkey way.
June 18, 2007 at 2:22 pm #37124Anonymous
InactiveThe dr believes that she should do fine with milk protein. He never pushed for soy but told me that if I wanted to, I could try it. Now, I wish I never had. Should I start giving her milk based once a day for now?
June 18, 2007 at 2:34 pm #37125Anonymous
Inactivewhat i would do is mix in one ounce milk based the rest soy.
the next day 2 oz milk based the rest soy
third day 3 oz milk based the rest soy
etc
good luck!!
June 18, 2007 at 2:47 pm #37127Anonymous
InactiveI wouldn’t worry about the soy…I am sure your LO is going to be just fine! I know plenty of babies that used soy formula and they are perfectly normal and healthy…I am not discounting the merit of the article from Natalia, I am just saying, I wouldn’t worry…you are just going to drive yourself crazy.
June 18, 2007 at 3:26 pm #37133Anonymous
InactiveMy sister who is a dietician and has her master’s degree is extremely health concious and only does soy milk with her children. They were both breastfed until over a year and they are perfectly healthy and fine.
I also wouldn’t make yourself nuts. You can not control everything and I would take soy over dehydration any day…..
Again, I have not read the articles, but you can find information pro or con anything you want to if you search long and hard enough, so I wouldn’t worry either.
Just my two cents…
Ann Marie
June 18, 2007 at 3:33 pm #37138Anonymous
Inactivemarianna, if you want to read further discussions about soy, you can go to the motheirng forums
http://www.mothering.com/discussions/
i have met very knowledgeable people there, including md’s and phd’s. what i like about the site is that it is sort of contrary to the mainstream info, which basically tells us to ignore our instincts, imo.
nataliachick72007-6-18 15:33:29
June 18, 2007 at 5:00 pm #37143Anonymous
InactiveNatalia, Ann Marie, Emily, thank you all for your replies and reassurance.
Natalia, I will check out the link you enclosed. Thanks.
June 18, 2007 at 5:38 pm #37144Anonymous
Inactivemarianna,
i am in your same boat. well not exactly… shane CANT do dairy…and i feel like soy is my only choice along with doing half rice milk. i am not sure what to do either! but i am aware of the dangers of soy.. more on boys than girls though! soo atleast your lucky she is a girl and already is supposed to have more estrogen
June 18, 2007 at 6:01 pm #37148Anonymous
Inactiveohh and we are using the organic formula instead of the regular soy formulas. that makes me feel a bit better. natures one has one and earths best has one.
June 18, 2007 at 6:12 pm #37149Anonymous
Inactiveohh and here is dr.sears point of view on it. kind of more balanced and inbetween..
“Even though around 25 percent of formula-fed American babies take some form of soy formula, we recommend that parents begin their baby on a standard cow’s milk-based formula unless advised otherwise by their doctor. Soy formulas became popular as an alternative formula in infants who are allergic to cow’s milk. Some babies are less allergic to the soy protein than to cow’s milk protein. Yet, we have the following reservations about soy formulas:
- Even though soy-based artificial baby milks may be less allergenic for some babies, between 30 and 50 percent of infants who are allergic to cow’s milk are also allergic to soy.
- There is no precedent in nature for feeding young mammals a plant-based protein. In the early 1970s it was discovered that soy proteins are deficient in some amino acids that babies need. For this reason, methionine, carnitine, and taurine have to be added from other sources. Not only is soy protein deficient in some amino acids because plant protein in general does not provide the same growth equivalent as animal protein, but more needs to be added so that soy formulas have a higher level of this protein to make up for its lesser quality. According to the amino acid profile, at least in All-Soy, there is no carnitine or taurine. Even though current biochemical knowledge has fixed some of the previous problems with soy protein for babies, we are still tampering with Mother Nature’s recipe, leading us to conclude that feeding soy protein to growing babies is still experimental. Plant protein is a good protein for older infants and adults, but the protein made by big mammals for little mammals is ideal for babies.
- Another problem with soy is that the protein itself contains phytates, substances that bind calcium and phosphorus. To prevent calcium deficiencies and consequent deficiencies in bone mineralization, the calcium content of soy formulas is generally 20 to 30 percent higher than the calcium content of milk- based formulas.
- These phytates also bind iron and zinc. As a result of this finding, artificial soy baby milks, such as Carnation, Allsoy, and Mead Johnson’s Prosobee, have added extra iron and zinc. Isomil’s Soy formula (made by Ross Laboratories) does not have more zinc or iron than the company’s cow’s-based formulas. Studies done by Ross Laboratories show that the blood-mineral profile of babies on cow’s milk and soy formulas are no different.
- In 1996 the Committee on Nutrition of the American Academy of Pediatrics voiced some concern about the relatively high content of aluminum in soy-based formulas and the possible toxicity to infants. Although the American Academy of Pediatrics concluded that the elevated aluminum levels in some soy formulas do not seem to be harmful for term infants, the fact is no one really knows. Because of this worry and studies showing less bone mineralization in preterm infants on soy formula, the Committee of Nutrition of the American Academy of Pediatrics recommended that soy formula be reserved for term infants and not be used for preterm or small-for-date infants.
- Soy formula was once routinely recommended for infants with a family history of milk allergy in hopes of preventing allergies from developing. Research has failed to support the idea that starting a newborn on soy formula will decrease the later incidence of allergy. Also, recent research has disproven the belief that babies are less colicky with soy formulas. Studies comparing cow’s milk- based and soy formula showed that soy formula does not lower the risk of infant colic. For this reason, the Committee on Nutrition of the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends against the use of soy formulas in the routine management of colic or in infants who are potentially allergic to cow’s milk. Instead of soy, hypoallergenic formulas are recommended.
- Giving an infant soy in the early months before intestinal closure may predispose the infant to soy allergies later on. Since soy is used as a filler in so many foods in the American diet, this is a serious concern.
- Soy formulas contain around 33 percent more sodium than standard cow’s milk- based formulas, and formulas in general are saltier than human milk. It is nutritionally unwise to shape young palates to get accustomed to salty tastes. It’s unwise to give a baby a salty formula unless absolutely necessary.
- Carbohydrate sources in soy formulas are even more of a concern. Just as there is a whey war going on between formula companies, there now seems to be a sugar war, too. Enfamil now advertises “no table sugar” in their soy formula, Prosobee, so they use corn syrup instead of sucrose. Does this make a big difference? Some nutritionists might prefer plain old table sugar to corn syrup. Corn itself is an allergen, and corn syrup is very sweet.
- Because soy formulas are made with bean “milk” and not cow’s milk, they are naturally lactose-free. The problem is that lactose is the sugar in human milk and in the milk of all other mammals. There is no basis in nature for feeding mammals lactose-free milk. Lactose is an intestinal-friendly sugar, enhancing calcium absorption and helping to colonize those little intestines with favorable bacteria. While the “lactose-free” nature of soy formulas benefit infants who are congenitally lactose intolerant (which is really quite rare in the first year of life), this is really tampering with Mother Nature. Because soy does not contain lactose, soy formulas are often recommended for infants who develop a temporary lactase deficiency following an intestinal infection. Studies as to whether or not this helps show mixed results. The American Academy of Pediatrics does not recommend the routine use of soy formulas in infants recovering from diarrhea, but suggests they be used only in babies shown to be temporarily intolerant of cow’s milk-based formulas.
Our conclusion: Unless recommended otherwise by your baby’s doctor, soy formulas:
- Should not be routinely used in infants with a family history of milk allergy in hopes of preventing later allergy.
- Should not be as a substitute for cow’s milk-based formulas unless baby has been proven to be allergic to cow’s milk-based formulas.
- Should not be used to prevent or treat “colic” unless advised by your doctor.
- Should not be used in preterm or small-for-date babies.
June 18, 2007 at 7:01 pm #37150Anonymous
Inactivethanks lauren. im surprised i missed that on the sears site. there is even more info about soy in there that i wasnt aware of, and makes me want to stay away from it even more. particularly with the aluminum issue.
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