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June 20, 2007 at 3:05 pm #37406
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InactiveThe only way to break the habit of rocking or feeding/nursing to sleep is to do some sleep training. If a baby is not accustomed to falling asleep alone in his bed, he will always want to be rocked or fed back to sleep each time they stir at night or during naps. I’d suggest that you read some of the sleep books that many of us like and have used and then decide which methods you are most comfortable with and then start some sleep training.
Good Night, Sleep Tight, Kim West.
Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Baby, Marc Weissbluth
Can’t remember the title but the author is, Pantley.
Anyone have any other suggestions for sleep books?
June 21, 2007 at 10:06 am #37471hellbennt
KeymasterNo Cry Sleep Solution- that’s by Pantley I think
& here’s http://www.askdrsears.com/html/7/T070800.asp
& try all cotton bedding & sleep clothes!
from another post from an archived/cache on TBW:
other things that helped:
1) temperature changes – DS1 had a low body temp, and needed the room much colder than we liked it. Once I cooled it down, he slept better. Some kids need it warmer, instead.
2) track feeds. Any feed that is a nibble just to get back to sleep, offer a bottle of water, instead. Even having me do that helped. If he rejected the water, I’d nurse, but often he’d take a few sips of water and go right back to sleep. After a few days of doing water at the same feed each night, he stopped waking for that one. I pruned two night wakings that way, it took about 3 weeks to do it, but it was worth it.
3) take control of the wakings. This method is supported by sleep researchers – if the wakings are at set times each night, they MAY be habitual (may also not be, but this method will help if they are). Set an alarm to wake you 15 minutes before each normal waking. Wake the child at the alarm and comfort them the way you usually would at that time (nurse, cuddle, etc.). After about 3-5 days of the new timed waking, where YOU are in charge of waking them, their brains will automatically start expecting YOU to wake them then, rather than waking themselves. Then, you start moving the alarm later and later, spreading out the time. If they go back to waking at the usual time, there’s a genuine need there, and you’ll have to deal. But often enough, at least one or two night wakings will be movable, and you can just move them off the end of the night. (This is, I believe, is from valid research, and it does not include crying it out.)
4) try the separate room, or white noise. Breastfeeding increases the arrousability of children. It is normal, and scientifically demonstrated (finally – so yes, breastfed babies do arouse more easily at night – BUT, that doesn’t mean necessarily wake, it means they get close to wakefulness, at which time sounds or movements or smell of mommy may wake them more easily). Being away from mom can make for fewer wakings due to less stimulus. It also may make any wakings much less happy. You’ll have to see if it helps or hurts. (I spent a lot of time in my oldest’s room, sleeping in the recliner…)
Good luck. The difficulty of getting to sleep suggests to me that this may be a physical comfort issue. Reflux, allergies, chiropractic need, apnea, etc., all may play a role.
hellbennt2007-6-21 10:19:7
June 21, 2007 at 11:57 am #37479Anonymous
InactiveI had this problem with both my kids, and I’m DEFINITELY NOT one to give advice b/c I STILL rock Hailey to sleep… but she’s a different breed than most babies, I think.
We went through this for Sarah. I used to rock her, dance with her, take her for car rides, stroller trips- everything to get her to fall asleep… (I know, I’m bad). But nothing really worked for her, I found. I used all the resources listed above.
I’d agree with the other ladies to try to read or look at a few different sources and then see if anything works. Eventually what worked for Sarah was setting a consistent nap routine, looking to catch her tired signs before they turned into exhaustion (i.e. fussiness, rubbing her eyes, putting her down at the first yawn or before). The other thing that helped was getting room darkening shades, and following our routine- which was read a book and rock, bottle, and then into the crib, turn on her night music, close the lights, and say “have a good nap, sarah-bear”. I always did it the same. Then I left and put her in the crib, awake or not, for up to 20 minutes. I tried different variations on this- the pat and shhh method, the pick up/put down, pretending to sleep myself on the floor beside the crib. I found for her what worked best was just leaving, but everyone is different and believes different things on this topic. Sometimes she’d sit there playing, sometimes she’d cry a bit or fuss, and sometimes she’d fall asleep. If it didn’t work, I tried again at the next nap time. Eventually she got the point and did fall asleep.
The other thing we learned was that what time she went to bed and how long she slept at night would impact her day sleep. So if she went to bed too late at night and woke late in the morning, her morning nap would be a problem. I noticed for her, a consistent day and night routine with an early bed time helped a lot.
Good luck. I hope you find something that works well for you. I’ve always found naps tricky, and have yet to break the rocking habit with Hailey, so please keep me posted if you find something that works.
June 21, 2007 at 1:41 pm #37486hellbennt
Keymasterhere’s the link I was looking for!
http://www.thebabywearer.com/cgi-bin/bookshop.pl?locale=us&a mp;cat=sl
scroll down to see all the ‘gentle’ sleep books
June 21, 2007 at 4:01 pm #37497Anonymous
InactiveLaura,
I REALLY like your ideas! I’m going to use those with Caden when he gets a bit older if he’s still waking a lot at night.
For Gabbs, I think that some babies do get in the habit of being rocked and then wake to be rocked again over and over. Our oldest son went through this for awhile as an infant. Our next 2 never liked to be rocked!
It’s always hard to know if it’s habit or if it’s a real need, but if you feel that your baby is ONLY waking to be rocked, you could try some gentle sleep training to teach him to fall asleep on his own. This is only if you are comfortable with it.
I know how hard it is when your baby won’t sleep

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