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August 25, 2007 at 11:53 am #41645
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Inactivehelp, please, with issue of thickening…
my baby is 13 wks old today, born at 34 wks. twin brother had reflux but is improved on Prilosec and erythromycin and has relatively big feeds of neosure, 4-5 oz. Elizabeth though, has been on the prilosec, then erythro added, then erythro –> reglan, then neosure–>nutramigen, then thicken w/ rice cereal 1 tbsp / 2oz, then nutramigen –> elecare, still thicken, still on Prilo but reglan stopped. (didn’t seem to help much).something is weird w/ either formula or cereal…sometimes it takes double the cereal to thicken enough! using dr.brown with y-cut nipple, so if not gravy thick or thicker she chokes. but if thick enough to not choke she falls asleep at half done! intake is much lower now, though still has wet diapers. (tho some are barely wet). before thickening, she was gaining wt, prob bcs of eating so wouldn’t spit up. probly spit up more bcs ovrfeeding. now has much less spitup, still moderate ‘silent reflux’ sx, and i’m sure will not be gaining wt at next visit, even with rice cereal calories. i tried going to just elecare w/o cereal in avent #1nipple, and she choked on that. any recommendations? seems like not thickening was better and just limit the volume (she was doing better pre-thick taking 90-100 cc, down from 125-130, now w/cereal only taking 40-80). but would she get used to the old nipple again? she just shut down and fell asleep when she choked on the old way (avent#1 and no cereal).sorry for abbrev’s and typos, doing this onefinger peck, holding her w/other arm. (sling i bought scunches her up, but that’s another post…i’ll ask about slings choices later)thanksAugust 25, 2007 at 11:56 am #41646Anonymous
Inactivesorry, one questn was buried in my rambling:
1. whats with the cereal not always thickening the same amt?2. anyone stop thickening and if so how to transition?3. new ques iforgot to ask, anyone using avent variable flow nipples? any good?thanks again!August 25, 2007 at 12:03 pm #41647hellbennt
KeymasterI would stop thickening and see what happens, as it seems you are entertaining the idea anyway. a reason to thicken is to improve weight gain and there are other ways to do this aside from adding cereal &
another reason to thicken is to help with aspiration, but there is a TEST to see if baby is aspirating this is called a swallow study (NOT the upper gi) and if baby is aspirating, there are thickening agents to use, not cereal…does nutrimigen come in ready to feed? some have better luck with that…as for the choking I would ask (ok demand!) a swallow study- this is where they give liquid at various thicknesses and watch how baby swallows…oh & you can use sling in tummy to tummy position (upright- good for reflux babies)- chekc out thevideao at http://www.oopababy.com/videos.phpnewborn tummy to tummy is on the right- right hand cloumn!hellbennt2007-08-25 12:06:12
August 25, 2007 at 8:19 pm #41679Anonymous
InactiveAlana always seem to choke on her formula when she was refluxing, it didn’t seem to relate to the thickness of the formula. Could it be possible that her reflux is still not entirely undercontrol (what kind of dose of the prilosec is she on, compounded and if so how etc) and that is why she is choking on her feeds. Although a swallow study seems a good ideas as well.
August 25, 2007 at 9:30 pm #41681Anonymous
InactiveWe are still thickening Ben’s formula. I have been worried about it from the start, though b/c he now weighs sooo much (almost 5 mos and 20lbs). But, whenever i’ve tried to cut back or cut it out he seemst o choke and sputter and not do well at all.
As for nipples…we tried the Avent variable flow and it didn’t work well for us. I’m not sure what the problem was. We also tried dr. brown’s and playtex ventaire. What we’ve ended up doing is using regular Avent nipples and putting a small slit in it with a knife (i know you’re not supposed to, but that’s what works for us.) You just need to do what works for you guys and helps keep you and your baby happy (and sane;). -
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