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January 6, 2008 at 10:07 am #47011
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Inactiveis so so hard
I don’t look forward to the nursing sessions
It is so stressful. It feels like a wrestling match
He pulls away, arches, gets off the boob, relatches, cries. He poops while nursing and looks to be in so much pain and is never cotent at the end of the nursing. I also have to burp him like 3 or 4 times and it is so hard to get him to burp.At this point, I am so ready to throw in the towel. I can’t deal with the stress and I am getting depressed about the whole thing. That compounded with the fact that when he is nursing, I am not sure he is getting enough. I don’t want him to stop gainign weight like my DD. I nursed her for almost two years. She refused to take the bottle. She had severe acid reflux and it was a nightmare. Once we got her on the right meds, she still didn’t out on weight adequately. SHe would nurse all night but only until I have a let down, then she didn’t want it. SO she would wake me up every hour, nurse for 4 minutes until I have a let down and then go back to sleep. We co-slept for a year.My doc waanted me to put her on formula or whole milk as soon as she hit one year. He said she was only using me as a pacifier and not really gaining any weight because she wasn’t getting enough.I am so worried that this will happen with this baby too. I really don’t enjoy breastfeeding him. I am sad to say because he seems to be in so much pain and it is never peaceful. I am tempted to pump and give it to him in a bottle. It is just so hard to wake up every couple of hours at night and nurse him and the whole process takes more than an hour between burping him, re-latching him thousands of times, trying to comfort him and keeping him upright for at least 20 minutes, it feels like I will never get any sleep. He seems to be happier when I give him the bottle too.Any advice, please help
Does it get better when the meds start kicking in? Also why does he always seem to be in so much pain when he is pooping and it always seems to happen when he is nursing?January 6, 2008 at 10:22 am #47013Anonymous
InactiveI’m sorry you’re going through this. I’m at the same stage you are so I can’t answer your questions, but I just wanted to give you a hug and some support.
Remember breastfeeding is so much more than just food. It helps with ear infections, and with many other immune system things too. Pumping and having some EBM available for nights sounds like it might be helpful to you, then you’d only have to the the burping dance during the day.Maybe its worth waiting to see if the meds help it, they did help us some.January 6, 2008 at 10:32 am #47014hellbennt
Keymastershelby posted this;
& here’s (part of) what I wrote:I always like to recommend to breastfeeding mothers to seek all the help they can manage to find such as:la leche league:The La Leche League Breastfeeding Helpline w/access to toll free breastfeeding help 24 hours a day. Just call 1-877-4-LALECHE (1-877-452-5324).& to find a local internationally board certified lactation consultant (IBCLC):I would get to a IBCLC as soon as possible- they have sensitive scales & weigh baby before & after feeding so you can know exactly how much baby is getting from youif you’re worried about supply:I’ve read on ‘the boards’ to take: fenugreek & blessed thistle
take 3 capsules of each, 3x/day &
don’t panic if you smell like syrup!
oatmeal should help too!
January 6, 2008 at 5:12 pm #47025Anonymous
InactiveARG! I just typed a HUGE response and it was erased! Anyway, mostly it was about OAL. Your description sounds like my daughter EXACTLY, and her weight issues were largely because I didn’t realize I had OAL. She would only nurse for short times too. I knew what to do with my son though, and he has always been a BIG boy. Anyway, I’m in a rush. please PM if you have questions!!!
January 6, 2008 at 9:08 pm #47026Anonymous
InactiveOh man, do I empathize!!! I’ve breastfed two refluxers also, and it IS really, really hard. Your descriptions of your nursing sessions sound EXACTLY like how I would describe both my boys, before things got better. Many times I referred to our feedings as WCW matches, each one ending more frantically than it had begun — which is so not the way feeding your baby should be. And it was hard, too, because often the doctors and family/friends do not understand because they don’t really see it happening.
I’ll tell you a bit of what helped our boys, and I really hope it helps you! Have you considered that your son might have a protein intolerance in addition to reflux? My first son was intolerant to milk protein only, and when he was 2 months old I cut dairy out of my diet and the feedings were immediately 100% improved. With my second son, Nathan, who is now 7 1/2 mos. old, I tried cutting out dairy and no improvement. So then I cut out soy in addition to dairy, because many babies who have problems with milk protein also have a soy protein intolerance. But still no help for Nathan. Then I found out about the total elimination diet on this forum (if you go to the main screen and scroll down you’ll see it), and within just 2 days of starting the diet, every feeding was as peaceful and calm as could be – no more arching, screaming, latching on and off a thousand times. The painful gas and bm’s, the endless grunting in his sleep were all gone. Nathan could even fall asleep during nursing, which was a miracle! One doctor we had seen actually told me when I had first described our terrible feedings that it sounded more like protein intolerances than reflux. And for us, that’s exactly what it was that was causing the bad feedings (MFPI – multiple food protein intolerance). The results of the TED for Nathan were so dramatic that I have stayed on a very restricted diet (very low protein) for 6 months and counting (though it seems Nathan is recently outgrowing MFPI – yay!!). And the only times we had bad feedings since beginning the TED were when I had eaten something too high in protein for him to handle.
But by no means was Nathan’s MFPI the only issue, nor my first son’s. Both also had plain ol’ reflux (GERD) due to an immature esophageal valve. Even after removing the problem proteins, they still slept terribly and cried a LOT. But good news – the Prevacid (at a Marci-kids high dose) greatly helped this.
Sorry to go on and on, but I just wanted to give you the details I was desperate for when I was in your situation. If I were you, I would definitely try to find out how much of your son’s problems (if any) is due to protein intolerances. I would maybe first cut out dairy, then soy, then go to the TED just to see if your little guy has protein intolerances – if so I believe you’ll see a huge improvement with the TED. Then at least you’ll know what you’re dealing with, even if you don’t decide to continue nursing. I don’t believe Zantac or Prevacid will help with a protein intolerance – they didn’t for my boys. Then after ruling out protein problems, see what you’re left with and then get your son on a Marci-kids dose of a PPI – even if you have to leave a doctor you really like, keep looking til you find one who will give you this high dose.
Good luck!! Please keep us posted.
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