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December 4, 2006 at 2:16 pm #19519AnonymousInactive
Hi everyone! Jacob is about the same – still has the bumps all over the place, and at this point I believe it is something in the formula. We switched him over from Neocate to Elecare last Friday in hopes that a different brand would solve the issue, but NOPE!
So, I have looked at all four of the formulas he has been on (Prosobee, Enfamil gentle ease, Alimnetum, neocate and Elecare) and the one thing they all have in common is the corn syrup….could this be his problem? The only thing is that they ALL have the corn syrup, so wouldn’t he have had the bumps ALL along? He just got them when we started the Neocate. As usual, I am confused….thoughts? And what the heck is next???? Goat’s milk???
JohannaDecember 4, 2006 at 2:29 pm #19523AnonymousInactive
am soo sorry.. i cant believe it. is he still crying all the time as well? maybe it can be the corn. i was talking to a mom on here that said she ended up on the goats milk formula from the dr.sears website because her baby couldnt tolerate anything else as well. maybe that is worth a shot. what does your doctor say?? i am going to start a new topic too w/whats going on w/shane, check it out.
i hope things get resolved soonDecember 4, 2006 at 3:04 pm #19527AnonymousInactive
I’m sure you’ve thought of this already, but maybe the bumps are from something external? his baby soap, detergent, saliva??? I just started the elimination diet and corn is in the last category of foods to add along with dairy, etc. I think it is a pretty common allergen. I’m not sure what’s next for you though. Sorry. I sure do know what it’s like to feel like you’ve tried everything and nothing seems to be working. Hang in there!December 4, 2006 at 6:49 pm #19539AnonymousInactive
hi, im wondering, how he is acting? is he feeding well, pain free?
the bumps could in fact be from something entirely not related. many babies have them and its considered pretty normal.
i know its possible, but it is very unlikely to be intolerant to corn syrup as all of the corn protein has been removed. once again, how is the behavior in relation to feeding issues?December 4, 2006 at 7:49 pm #19541AnonymousInactive
Hi! Nope – not acting completely pain free. Honestly, he is acting just a bit better than he was when he was on the soy (which was the formula we tried before the neocate). He is still having obvious moments of pain, does not like to sit, and sleeps really horribly at night (I am so over not sleeping at night!).
I have racked my brain as to what else would be causing the bumps and even brought him to the doc re: it. She thought either the formula or the oatmeal, which we were trying for awhile. We elminated the oatmeal last Monday, so that is obviously not the problem.
Also, we have tried no new soaps or anything. Is it possible for a pet allergy (we have a dog and cat) to pop up like this? We have had the animals all along….and it seems like such an odd coincidence that the bumps are directly related to the time when we started the neocate. GOSH – I am so confused…I have no idea where to turn next…
JDecember 4, 2006 at 10:19 pm #19560AnonymousInactive
Sue (Alexis’s mom) has posted about her daughter Taylor having a corn syrup allergy. Unfortunately, I can’t remember what they are giving Taylor as an alternative. Hopefully, she’ll post soon with an answer. You could also try doing a search to see what she said.December 4, 2006 at 10:51 pm #19563AnonymousInactive
Sue (Alexis’s mom) has posted about her daughter Taylor having a corn syrup allergy. Unfortunately, I can’t remember what they are giving Taylor as an alternative. Hopefully, she’ll post soon with an answer. You could also try doing a search to see what she said.
she said she is doing half goats milk/half Ross carbohydrate mixture.December 4, 2006 at 11:23 pm #19565AnonymousInactive
Is it possible that the bumps will be around for 2 wks or so after the allergen is removed. I know that my son’s excema took 3 wks to fully resolve after we removed milk/dairy from his diet. I hope you find the answer soon!December 5, 2006 at 12:44 pm #19597AnonymousInactive
Both girls are occupied finally able to read the post! Taylor is definitely allergic to corn syrup, when we switched her to neocate she was worse since there seems to be a higher corn syrup contain than the others and we had allergy testing for corn syrup and she actually reacted to it protein or not. We started her on Goats milk prior to the allergy testing and she did much better than the other formulas due to no corn syrup but still had a hard time due to the milk in it. The dietican found out that she was allergic to corn, corn syrup, milk but not soy she told us to try Ross Carbohydrate Free Soy formula which you add your own carbohydrates in our case Brown rice syrup. She is doing much better on it she just won’t switch entirely to the soy the dietician thinks it is the taste, so we do have goats milk and half RCF since it is only half of the milk she is actually okay on it. Taylor had a lot of lower GI problems, painful gas, unable to have BMs even though they were soft, and having a lot of problems eating. Once we made the switch the gas and bm problems are gone, she still doesn’t eat much since she is horrible at sucking still low volume but that is due to DGE. So far this has been working very well for her and just waiting for the 1 year mark to switch her to a regular soy milk or rice milk.December 8, 2006 at 11:06 am #19810AnonymousInactive
Thanks for your response.
Did Taylor get a rash of any kind when she was on the neocate? That’s what is confusing me – this strange rash. It is mainly on his back and face.
JohannaC 2006-12-8 11:6:33December 8, 2006 at 11:17 am #19813AnonymousInactive
Do you or the doctor think it may be eczema? All of my three babies had eczema as infants and two them had a very severe outbreak in early infancy. In fact Ellie’s case was so severe that our doctor’s jaw dropped in horror when she first saw Ellie’s face. Both Ellie and Myles had very severe eczema mainly on their faces and it simply would not clear up until it was treated. Our doctor adviced me to use Cortaid 1% Ointment (not lotion). A thin layer twice daily for a few days cleared it up for both of them. Cortaid does contain coritizone and it is absorbed through the skin so it shouldn’t be used in excess or for prolonged periods of time but it’s very effective in clearing up eczema and other allergic type rashes. Maybe ask Jacob’s doctor if you could try that to get it under control. It’s available over the counter or you can get a script so your insurance may pay for it.
Good luck. I hope you find the answer soon.December 8, 2006 at 1:17 pm #19823AnonymousInactive
On other formulas her main symptoms were all GI related but when we switched her to Neocate she did develop a horrible rash only to her ears. It was very nasty, it was a thick layer of skin which continued to peel away and her ears would be so red and inflamed she would always play with them since I’m sure it bothered her. We tried Cortaid to them it helped a little but continue to return we tried a RX cortaid and same thing happened. We stopped the Neocate and the ear rash soon went away without resurfacing. We switched her to RTF alimentum which does not contain any corn but does have milk and she no longer had the rash but her GI issues persist due to the milk contents.December 8, 2006 at 1:23 pm #19824AnonymousInactive
Alexis’s mom wrote:
We switched her to RTF alimentum which does not contain any corn but does have milk and she no longer had the rash but her GI issues persist due to the milk contents.
the RTF does have corn syrup, its just a smaller percentage.December 8, 2006 at 2:11 pm #19826AnonymousInactive
Here is the ingredient list for the powder and rtf alimentum it does not list corn syrup for the RTF
INGREDIENTS (Ready To Feed)
87% Water, 4.4% sugar (sucrose), 2.3% casein hydrolysate (enzymatically hydrolyzed), 2.2% modified tapioca starch, 1.4% safflower oil, 1.3% medium chain triglycerides, 1.1% soy oil; Less than 1% of: C. cohnii oil,* M. alpina oil,** calcium citrate, calcium phosphate, carrageenan, potassium phosphate, ascorbic acid, magnesium chloride, calcium hydroxide, potassium citrate, sodium chloride, L-cystine dihydrochloride, potassium chloride, L-tyrosine, choline chloride, L-tryptophan, ferrous sulfate, taurine, m-inositol, zinc sulfate, dl-alpha-tocopheryl acetate, L-carnitine, niacinamide, calcium pantothenate, cupric sulfate, riboflavin, vitamin A palmitate, thiamine chloride hydrochloride, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, potassium iodide, phylloquinone, biotin, sodium selenate, vitamin D3 and cyanocobalamin.
35.5% Corn maltodextrin, 17.5% casein hydrolysate (enzymatically hydrolyzed), 14.5% sugar (sucrose), 9.7% high oleic safflower oil, 9.5% medium chain triglycerides, 8.0% soy oil; Less than 2% of: C. cohnii oil,* M. alpina oil,** calcium phosphate, DATEM, potassium citrate, xanthan gum, magnesium chloride, mono- and diglycerides, sodium chloride, ascorbic acid, L-cystine dihydrochloride, calcium carbonate, L-tyrosine, potassium chloride, choline chloride, ferrous sulfate, L-tryptophan, taurine, m-inositol, ascorbyl palmitate, dl-alpha-tocopheryl acetate, zinc sulfate, L-carnitine, niacinamide, mixed tocopherols, calcium pantothenate, cupric sulfate, vitamin A palmitate, thiamine chloride hydrochloride, riboflavin, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, potassium iodide, phylloquinone, biotin, sodium selenate, vitamin D3 and cyanocobalamin.December 8, 2006 at 2:32 pm #19832AnonymousInactive
Christine – the pediatrician looked at it and didn’t mention excema. Maybe I will bring him again. Excema usually indicates allergies, true?
Sue – VERY interesting that the RTF alimentum does not list corn syrup. I wonder if the RTF Nutramigen does or not. We tried the powder form of Alimentum, but not the RTF. Maybe I will try one of these…..of course, my GI said NOT to change the formula, but I am throwing the BS flag on that one!
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