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March 10, 2007 at 5:36 pm #27165
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InactiveMy goodness…I am sure she is wonderful in lots of ways with Sarah…but she sounds like a piece of work (passive aggressive anyone????).
I know it is really hard to have these “talks” but I guess if you write it all down for her and explain why it is so important thats all you can do. If she still doesn’t cooperate very well or seem to understand then I guess it might not be the best environment for (of course it may be the only option for you…i don’t know if it is as hard to get daycare there as it is here
)What a pain in the butt…its hard enough leaving our little ones without worrying about the nitty gritty of what goes on during the day
March 12, 2007 at 4:54 pm #27286Anonymous
InactiveI can’t believe that, it sounds to me like she just wants to feed your daughter whatever she has handy and doesn’t want to make a little effort in the matter, eventhough she knows Sarah’s got a sensitive tummy. Why don’t you ask HER for the state approved list, since she claims to be so familiar with it? If there really is one, then she should be able to come up with it, but if there isn’t really one, it would be really fun to watch her squirm!! Then, like someone else suggested, you can give her a list of what she can eat, with a dr’s note!
Is there really a “state approved list”, I would imagine if there is one it would be more of a guideline, and also advising not to feed things like peanuts to babies…
March 12, 2007 at 8:28 pm #27308Anonymous
InactiveI had a conversation with the sitter yesterday and things went pretty well. Today she put the recommended food lists and a letter in Sarah’s bag. Apparently she was slightly insulted that I referred to some of the things she had given Sarah has “junk food”. (cookies and chicken strips!?!) I agree with everything listed…however she is giving Sarah several foods on the 1-2 year old list. Yes, Sarah is only 6 weeks away from being one, but in my opinion that doesn’t mean she has to be proficient in eating ALL of those things BY one year old! She gave her cooked pasta today. No big deal really, but I just don’t understand what the “rush” has to be!?! On the 1-2 year old list it says “fruits and vegetables” and she made sure to put a note by it that that does NOT include baby food jars. What’s wrong with eating purees past 1 year old? I know several of you continued those past one year. The letter also stated that if a child needs to deviate from the State required list that I must have a doctor’s note explaining that (so she doesn’t get in trouble by the state). WHY, as a parent, can’t I provide a written note explaining that I do not want Sarah to eat X, Y or Z? I hope to find that out tomorrow. So, it’s definitely been a learning experience for me. Sure, a HUGE part of it is that I’m having a tough time transitioning to Sarah becoming a ‘big girl’. It’s been harder than I thought it would be that’s for sure! Other than Sarah’s chronic constipation and need for Alimentum she doesn’t have any major intolerance symptoms so maybe I’m being too overly cautious? Isn’t that my “mommy” right though?
Just wanted to update.
March 12, 2007 at 8:34 pm #27309Anonymous
InactivePersonally, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with purees for as long as a child wants them. Isn’t applesauce basically just pureed apples? In general, Kaelyn has been past the puree stage for a while, but she has gotten really interested in them lately as we’ve been introducing new foods to Alex. So, if she asks for a jar of Alex’s food, I let her have it. I figure that it’s an extra serving of fruits or veggies, so where’s the harm?
Every state may be different, but I have trouble believing that she’ll get in trouble just for giving your child foods that you request. Then again, our daycare received a violation from the state because Kaelyn had cereal in her bottle and they didn’t have a doctor’s note for it.
March 12, 2007 at 9:01 pm #27312Anonymous
InactiveI fed purees to Claire for as long as I could! It’s SO much easier to get veggies and fruits into them that way!
I hate that you are having such a hard time with this, but I would really think that, as a parent, you have the right to decide what Sarah does and doesn’t eat. Could you send her food with her every day?
Claire was kept by a woman in her home, and I would send her food with her. She didn’t go by any state regulations though, so I’m unfamiliar with that, but still….
I mean, there has to be some leeway for children with GERD, right???
March 12, 2007 at 9:24 pm #27318Anonymous
InactiveMyles still eats purees every day. He eats table foods but he won’t eat any fruits or veggies yet so I continue to feed him pureed fruits and veggies. Like Kim said, isn’t applesauce just pureed apples? And people eat pureed squash, creamed corn and other mushies, so what’s wrong with feeding it to toddlers if they will eat them?
March 12, 2007 at 10:11 pm #27322Anonymous
InactiveI guess I sort of feel “defeated” on the whole issue and will let her feed whatever is “required”…barring any CRAZY foods. BUT I will definitely continue to feed Sarah purees at home for as long as she’ll let me! It IS such an easy way to get a serving a fruits and veggies! I’ll admit that I don’t do much in the way of fresh produce…so why not feel good about her getting the good stuff in WHATEVER form!! Thanks for the support!
March 13, 2007 at 5:49 am #27333Anonymous
InactiveAmy…this whole thing seems absolutely bloody ridiculous to me…you are her mother…you get to decide what she eats…simple as that to me. Since when did the “state” get to decide what we eat
. I’m hoping mad and I don’t even live in the US
OK there is my vent!!!!Sorry I don’t want to be inflammatory…but it seems like if she is more concerned with the state than the welfare of Sarah. Maybe that is a bit harsh because I don’t know the whole situation……
At the same time…life has so many complications…after my initial grrr…I know how it feels to feel defeated…or choose my battles
March 13, 2007 at 9:01 am #27336Anonymous
Inactivewell, I always thought the state had guidelines on what kids SHOULDN’T eat like hotdogs, etc. but don’t think they list what they should eat. The state also at least in GA just suggests nutritious snacks and past menus must be kept on file for them to audit. Interesting though. I’d be curious as to what you find out. At any rate, even if the state has publsihed something they are guidelines for the center to make sure they serve healthy meals not laws so you as a parent decide what your child can or can not have. Mom2Seth2007-3-13 9:8:35
March 13, 2007 at 9:10 am #27338Anonymous
InactiveHere’s what the food/nutrition guidelines are in GA for daycares- don’t know how they compare to Illinois though:
290-2-2-.14 Food Services and Nutrition.
The center shall ensure that the children receive nutritious meals and snacks in accordance with the following:
(a) A written feeding plan for children under one (1) year of age shall be obtained from parents:
1. Instructions from the parents shall be updated regularly as new foods are added or other dietary changes are made; and
2. The parent shall sign the feeding plan.
(b) The feeding plan shall be posted in the child’s assigned room and shall include:
1. The child’s feeding schedule;
2. The amount of formula to be given;
3. Instructions for the introduction of solid foods;
4. The amount of food to be given; and
5. Notation of any type(s) of commercial premixed formula which may not be used in an emergency because of food allergies.
(c) When formula is provided by the center, only commercially prepared, ready-to-feed formula shall be used. When formula or expressed milk is provided by the parents, it shall be provided in individually marked baby bottles. Any unused formula or milk shall be discarded or returned to the parent at the end of the day.
1. All baby bottles shall be clearly labeled with the individual child’s name and marked with the current day’s date.
(i) Only the current day’s dated formula shall be served; and shall be refrigerated at a temperature of forty-five (45) degrees Fahrenheit or
(d) Center personnel shall hold and feed infants under six (6) months of age and older children who cannot hold their own bottles or sit alone:
1. Baby bottles shall never be propped; and
2. The infant’s head shall be elevated while feeding.
(e) Honey shall not be served to children under one (1) year of age.
(f) As soon as the feeding plan indicates that a child is ready for solid foods, the child shall be fed from individual spoons and individual containers or dishes.
1. A child shall not be fed directly from the original baby food container if the contents are to be fed to the child at more than one (1) meal or to more than one (1) child.
(g) As soon as the children exhibit a desire to feed themselves, the children shall be assisted and encouraged to:
2. Drink from individual cups.
1. In individual plates or bowls for each child, and
2. With individual utensils of a size appropriate for the age of the child.
(i) Beverages shall be served in individual glasses or cups.
(j) Children shall be encouraged but not forced to eat.
1. Given necessary assistance in feeding;
2. Encouraged to try a variety of foods in order to develop good nutritional habits.
(l) Powdered non-fat dry milk shall only be used for cooking purposes.
(m) Food and drinks shall be prepared in an area that is not used for diaper-changing and as close to serving time as possible to protect children and personnel from food-borne illnesses.
(n) Any portions of food or drink which are served to children or placed on the table for service and are not consumed at that meal or snack by the children to whom the portions are served shall be thrown away.
(o) The center shall provide a menu listing all meals and snacks to be served during the current week except for school-age day care centers where the food may be provided by the parents by agreement between the school-age day care center and the parents. The menu shall be:
2. Posted near the front entrance of the center in a location conspicuous to parents.
(p) Menu substitutions shall be recorded on the posted menu.
(q) Menus shall be retained at the center for six (6) months.
(r) When a child requires a modified diet for medical reasons, a written statement from a medical authority shall be on file. When a child requires a modified diet for religious reasons, a written statement to that effect from the child’s parents shall be on file.
1. All caregiver personnel shall be informed of the diet restrictions for the child; and
2. Only food that complies with the prescribed dietary regimen but still meets the food and nutrition requirements shall be served to the child.
(s) Each center shall have designated space for food preparation and storage areas separate from rooms used by children.
(t) Food preparation surface areas shall be nonporous with no unsealed cracks or seams.
(u) Kitchen lights shall be shielded.
(v) Ventilation shall be provided either by mechanical or natural means so as to provide fresh air and control of unpleasant odors in the food preparation area.
(w) Water supply and sewage disposal systems, if other than community systems, shall be approved by the local county health authorities.
(x) Staff shall wash their hands and arms thoroughly with soap and warm water before starting food service work and shall wash hands during work hours as often as may be necessary to remove soil and contamination as well as after visiting the toilet room.
(y) Food purchased from a caterer shall be prepared in a facility with a current food service permit, and shall be maintained at a safe temperature (forty-five (45) degrees Fahrenheit or below for foods requiring refrigeration or one hundred forty (140) degrees Fahrenheit for foods which must be heated prior to serving) until served.
(z) All perishable and potentially hazardous foods shall be refrigerated at a temperature of forty-five (45) degrees Fahrenheit or below and served promptly after cooking. Freezer temperature shall be maintained at zero (0) degrees Fahrenheit or below.
(aa) Food shall be in sound condition, free from spoilage and contamination and shall be safe for human consumption.
(bb) All raw fruits and vegetables shall be washed thoroughly before being cooked or served. Food not subject to further washing or cooking before serving shall be stored in such a manner as to be protected against contamination.
(cc) Containers for food storage other than the original container or package in which the food was obtained shall be impervious and nonabsorbent, have tight fitting lids or covers and labeled as to contents.
(dd) Containers of food shall be stored above the floor on clean surfaces, in such a manner as to be protected from splash and other contamination.
(ee) Eggs, pork, pork products, poultry, and fish shall be thoroughly cooked.
(ff) Meats, poultry, fish, dairy products, bakery products and processed foods shall have been inspected under an official regulatory program.
(gg) Hot foods shall be maintained at a temperature of one hundred forty (140) degrees Fahrenheit or above except during serving. Hot foods shall not be served at a temperature which would cause the children to burn their mouths upon consuming the food.
(hh) Staff shall not use tobacco in any form while engaged in food preparation or service, or while in the food preparation area or while cleaning equipment and utensils.
(ii) Chipped or cracked dishes shall not be used.
(jj) Food service equipment and preparation areas shall be kept clean and free of accumulation of dust, dirt, food particles and grease deposits.
(kk) Non-disposable dishes, glasses and silverware shall be properly cleaned by pre-rinsing, or scraping, washing, sanitizing and air drying. A three (3) compartment sink or a dishwasher with a sani-cycle or capability of maintaining a rinse water temperature of a minimum of one hundred fifty (150) degrees Fahrenheit and a two (2) compartment sink shall be available. Dishes, glasses and silverware shall be rinsed in the approved dishwasher or rinsed in a chemical sanitizing agent and air dried.
(LL) Garbage shall be stored in trash containers with lids. Containers shall be emptied and cleaned as needed. Acceptable facilities, including water and detergent or steam, shall be provided and used for cleaning containers. Areas around outside containers shall be kept clean.
(mm) Poisons, medicines, cleaning chemicals, razors, aerosol cans, etc. shall be kept in a safe, or locked location that is inaccessible to the children.
(nn) Children shall be served all meals and snacks scheduled for the period during which they are present. In those school-age day care centers where the parents of children enrolled provide the meals and snacks, the center shall ensure that no child remains at the center without receiving the scheduled nutritious meals and snacks. The following meals and snacks shall be scheduled and served by the center when appropriate:
1. Breakfast or a morning snack shall be served to each child;
4. Supper shall be served during evening care;
5. An evening snack shall be served prior to bedtime; and
6. There shall be a period of at least two (2) hours between each required meal or snack.
(oo) Meals and snacks with serving sizes dependent upon the age of the child shall meet nutrition guidelines as established by the United States Department of Agriculture Child Care Food Program.
(pp) Meals and snacks shall be varied daily.
(qq) Additional servings of nutritious food shall be offered to children over and above the required daily minimum, if not contraindicated by special diets.
(rr) Soft drink vending machines and other food dispensers shall not be maintained on center premises for the children’s use:
1. Dispensers for personnel use shall be outside of the children’s areas.
(ss) Drinking water shall be available to all children.
1. Drinking water shall be offered at least once between meals and snacks to children under three (3) years of age.
(tt) Peanuts, hot dogs, raw carrots, popcorn, fish with bones and grapes shall not be served to the children under three (3) years of age. Children older than three (3) years of age may be served these foods provided that the foods are cut in such a way as to minimize choking.
(uu) Foods and drinks with little or no nutritional value, i.e. sweets, soft drinks, etc. shall be served only on special occasions and only in addition to the required nutritious meals and snacks.
March 13, 2007 at 10:24 am #27343hellbennt
Keymasterjonah (not mspi) ate gerber creamed spinach until age 2! how else to get a toddler to eat spinach? he sure won’t eat it now

can you put the jarred food into little gladware containers & lable them: creamed this & custard that? LOL
March 13, 2007 at 11:46 am #27365Anonymous
InactiveAmy, I know that it can be hard to stand up to people who are looking after your child, but it’s important that she know that even though she watches Sarah, you’re still her mother, and that makes you the boss and the authority on what she eats. I also take a lot of flack on feeding Hailey bottles close to age 2, and I just remind myself that I know my child best, and I know what her circumstance is. If you want her to eat purees, then that’s your right as her mother. If the daycare provider doesn’t want to provide them, then she certainly should feed them if you bring them. We’ve had similar issues with Hailey’s day care, but I’ve had several meetings with the director, and we now seem to be on track for the most part. Good luck!
March 13, 2007 at 2:36 pm #27391Anonymous
InactiveI like Laura’s idea!

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