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June 21, 2007 at 4:24 pm #37500
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Inactivesorry, the whole title did not fit. Anywho, I’m in a desparate need of teaching Ariella to fall asleep on her own. I see that Gabbs asked the exact same question but my situation is a little different. the only difference is, Ariella will get HYSTERICAL once I leave the room when I put her down in her bed. She can stand in her crib now so she just stands and wails (the neighbors must think I’m torturing her). I tried staying with her in the room, patting her back, giving her a bottle with water, her favorite toy. NOTHING WORKS! Even rocking sometimes doesn’t work. On bad days, I have to take her on a stroller trip (but it’s getting way too hot for that). I physically can’t rock her anymore (bad back
) so I’ve got to train her. Is there a gentler way of doing this other than hearing her wail for hours???
June 21, 2007 at 4:29 pm #37502Anonymous
InactiveAlso, does anyone know if a white noise machine will help her fall asleep on her own? Or is it purely for staying asleep? And where can I purchase one (if it’s not too late… since I’ve never used one with her before, I don’t know how she’ll react to it?) Thanks.
June 21, 2007 at 4:44 pm #37503Anonymous
InactiveWe actually used the CD associated with Happiest Baby on the Block. It was a gift. It has sort of white noise, in three speeds/intensities. If our first son was hysterical, we’d turn it on, hold him, and within a few minutes he’d be calm. Sometimes we’d put him in the crib wailing and leave it on (I think it was an hour of noise). I still remember hearing the wailing and the noise (sort of like a washing machine noise) over the monitor and within a few minutes it would just be the noise, not the wailing.
Good luck.
June 21, 2007 at 5:22 pm #37511Anonymous
Inactiveyou Could try a white noise machine. We have one, but I don’t use it, it is too loud for his room. You could also try a soothing ocean cd or something like that to see if that works as they are less expensive. What I did with Cooper when he wasn’t sleeping was I would rub his forehead, talk very softly to him, rub his belly and give him kisses on his forehead. Now granted he was not even 10wks old when I was doing all of this, and I am sure your crib is too low to bend down and kiss her is she is lying down. I would also try sometype of routine with bedtime and naps to help with her understanding that it is time to go to sleep. We go for a walk at night and then have a bath or massage and then a bottle then bed. For naps, I usually just pay attention to when he is sleepy and then we go read a book in his room and I put him down. This took many weeks of him not sleeping at all and finally one day he just decided oh… this means I am supposed to go to sleep. We still don’t go the whole night without me having to comfort him and sometimes I do go in an rock him if he is particularly restless, but that is only after 3 tries of doing it with patting and paci. I use the 3 strikes and I’m out rule which means after 3 non rocking tries then I rock and hopefully that works if not sometimes he does need to eat but anyway I am rambling. Good Luck.
June 21, 2007 at 8:20 pm #37530hellbennt
Keymasterwhen I put baby in the crib, I put him on his belly & I take a weighted stuffed animal like a beanie baby and put it on his back & then I place one hand, palm open on top of the weighted stuffed animal on his back pressing down with pressure, as I sing and the other hand is on baby’s tushie jiggling it as I sing- as baby tries to pop his head up, I gently put it down again (sounds mean as I type but I don’t mean slam baby’s head down or anything! I mean gently put it down again as you’re still singing) and continue with the pressure on his back and jiggling his bottom- then after some time & baby isn’t trying to pop his head up anymore I slowly slow down w/ the jiggling and then I take my hand off of his back and the stuffed animal is still there so he still feels the weight & then i leave the room

sounds easy, huh? HA HA HA!!! this takes time.
June 21, 2007 at 9:05 pm #37540Anonymous
InactiveWe are going through this a bit ourselves. Strange this is that Ben will go to sleep by himself at night, but struggles, struggles, struggles for naps.
We have a routine for both naps and bedtime. We use a noise machine (got ours at Brookstone), and his room is darkened. He yawns as soon as I turn on the noise machine. I leave the machine on pretty loudly during his naps (we have a small house) and I leave it on all night too, but turn it way down when we go to bed. Anyway, for naps, I used to be able to rock him for about 10 minutes until he was calm and drowsy and then I would put him in his bed and he would suck his fingers or paci until sleep. He still does this at night time just fine.
However, naps have become war ground of late. He’s teething, has learned how to sit up and pull up on his crib, etc. Anyway, the rocking until calm thing hasn’t worked lately. What I’ve been doing is rocking him anyway, sometimes cradling him and singing two or three songs and then telling him it’s time for bed. I put him on his tummy and say “night, night” or something like that and then I leave. He wails for a minute or two and then stops and then wails and then stops. This went on this morning for 30 minutes until he finally went to sleep.
With my daughter, I used the graduated system. I would leave her, wait 5 minutes before going in.. talk to her, rub her back and leave, then wait 10 minutes and then 15 and keep it at 15 until she went to sleep or until an hour had passed from when I first put her down.
With Ben, going in seems to upset him more, so I try not to unless he is really hysterical (i.e. he screamed out yesterday and had his leg stuck in the slats!
). I think what Beth suggested is the way to go.. it may take several days of not sleeping, but they will finally get it. (I hope!)
June 21, 2007 at 11:39 pm #37552Anonymous
InactiveI am going through the same thing with Adriana. I have just concluded that it is too late for me to ever get her to go to sleep by herself. I feel like I missed my chance. BUt, I could try some of the things mentioned. Adriana also crys as soon as I leave her!
June 22, 2007 at 9:02 am #37569hellbennt
Keymasterjenny,
you did not miss your chance!
you just have to do what works for you 2 until it doesn’t work anymore, and then you figure something else out
you all should have SEEN the production(s) we went through to get Jonah to nap! nursing to sleep, then when that didn’t work, wearing him in a sling to sleep, rocking him to sleep, wearing him in a sling AND rocking him to sleep, etc etc etc

he finally became a good napper at 18months. I don’t tell you this to scare you! I tell you to let you know it’s not too late!
hang in there everyone!
June 22, 2007 at 12:24 pm #37585Anonymous
InactiveJust a thought, if you want a white noise machine and can’t find one, a friend of mine used to run a humidifier in her daughter’s room for the noise in order to soothe her. Same kind of effect.
June 22, 2007 at 12:46 pm #37586Anonymous
InactiveThank you everyone for your suggestions. I will definitely try to use some of them and I PRAY that one works. Like mentioned before, I’m in too much pain to continue to rock her. In fact, I’m risking to drop her if I continue to rock her to sleep (sometimes the pain can get very intense
So I would rather her learn how to fall asleep on her own then continue risking dropping her. While we’re in “traning” so to speak, should I continue taking her for stroller rides or will it defeat the purpose?June 22, 2007 at 1:42 pm #37600Anonymous
InactiveI just used Laura’s technique for Gabby’s nap. Usually Gabby will only nap with me. That is the only way I could ever get her to sleep when her reflux was at it’s peak and now she doesn’t know how to sleep on her own. I know, I know, it’s terrible. But I tried Laura’s technique a half hour ago and she is sleeping. Thanks Laura!
A nap in the crib is such an achievement for us. 🙂June 22, 2007 at 2:05 pm #37605Anonymous
InactiveIf you want to use the stroller walk as a way to help her realize that that means it is time to go to sleep then I would say keep doing it. If you aren’t going to do it everyday then I wouldn’t do it around sleeping times. But that is just my opinion.
June 22, 2007 at 5:33 pm #37632hellbennt
Keymasteryay kathy! glad that I was able to help!
June 24, 2007 at 9:56 pm #37816Anonymous
InactiveLaura, how long did it take you to train Ari?
June 25, 2007 at 8:25 am #37829hellbennt
Keymasterhe’s 11months, so 11months,lol!
the falling asleep on his own started maybe at 9 months? I’m one to do what I do until it doesn’t work anymore
– so there was a point where I was nursing him to sleep & then he’d pop up and be awake- so then I started figuring out how to put him in the crib and leave the room, lol…I didn’t want to ‘do’ anything w/ his baby- just enjoy him
– I took a year off of work & thought to myself that I’ll follow his lead until I can’t stand it anymore…so far I’ve been standing it, lol
once he showed me he could sleep through the night (very recently), when he wakes before 4am, I let him fuss a little- not freak out, but I give him 10minutes & that usually does the trick…
now, he’s going to a babysitter’s starting in august (soon
), so I figure ‘it’s not my problem’ how he naps with her…sounds mean
, but what I mean is, the 2 of them are going to have to figure out what works for them. I’m trying not to nurse him before naps, but it’s not working- it’s just too easy for me to do
…so I’m procrastinating & not facing the issue and figure I’ll be at work and it’ll take a while for everyone to get adjusted… -
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