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August 24, 2007 at 12:13 pm #41586
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Inactiveok, so the “old-timers” (you know who you are) will likely remember the continuing saga of “what to feed hannah” who seemed to me the pickiest toddler on earth as we recovered from a mild — moderate feeding aversion. well, the girl in all of her tall and slender glory is starting montessori school in two weeks and they, um, don’t heat the lunches.
and she rarely eats real food that isn’t hot. snack food or cheese are it for room temperature/ cold…and it is a peanut-free zone. and what is the only sandwich fixing she’ll eat besides cheese? you got it — peanut butter. i am usually an adventurous eater, but i tried soy nut butter and ewwwwww. peanut butter it is not. i would hesitate to use it often anyhow because i still have a hangover from MSPI where our worst days were caused by soy.how many cheese sandwiches will it take before she goes on strike? how low can the blood sugar go (she eats a minimal breakfast, but i let her “graze” on drinking yogurt, cheese, muffins or bagels, dried fruit and sometimes noodles
) with cold lunch refusal. my husband thinks i am crazy. already i have combed the internet and local grocery stores for healthy ideas and have stocked our cabinets with tons of stuff. my hope is to pack a sandwich, a “healthy” side (dried fruit or carrots — she doesn’t eat fresh fruit), and a treat like cheese crackers or corn chips or a cookie. i have purchased a thermos type contraption to send some warm food on occasion.right, so as i said, she doesn’t eat: fresh fruit, anything with red sauce, tuna fish, red meat, lunch meats, cold anything, yogurt that isn’t drinkable, pudding (!), hard boiled eggs, quiche…you get the idea…but the sad thing is either my own compulsiveness or stress is really making me uptight. like all i can think about is: what will she eat? will she bite other children by 2:45 because she can’t have her usual fish or hot dog or ravioli…or cous cous and brocolli.
so help. any ideas? for those who have kids in peanut free schools, is sunflower butter or almond butter ok? (soy is in our school). i envision hannah eating a slice of cheese and then swiping someone’s potato chips. any feedback is great…August 24, 2007 at 12:54 pm #41588Anonymous
InactiveBecky, I totally undertsand your fears, I have the same, what will Brodie eat when he goes to preschool and will he eat? I have already worried he will lose weight or slow down his growth when he goes because he will eat so much less than in his current situation, one on one with his sitter. I have almost a year to go before he goes to preschool, though. We may put him in a day a week to start in March 2008. Then in Sept 2008, 3 days a week. Anyhow, Brodie mostly eats hot lunches too, and rarely eats a sandwich. I feel your pain and don’t have any suggestions right now, but I can totally relate and sympathize with you!!!! We can only hope they will learn this is what they have and if they are hungry they will eat!!! What about cereal that she can add the little carton of milk too? Does she eat much cereal? Brodie loves special K, cookie crisp, kix. RLM4262007-08-24 16:57:09
August 24, 2007 at 1:43 pm #41594Anonymous
InactiveFortunately for us, Kaelyn’s daycare will heat food for my girls (although, it’s only because they have food allergies – they wouldn’t even be allowed “outside” food if they weren’t allergic). However, I live in fear of the day (still 2 years away) when she heads off to kindergarten and I have to start packing cold lunches. So… I feel your pain.
Unfortunately, I don’t have any really great ideas. Will she do muffins? You could hide some healthy food in them and maybe that would help. I think that the drinkable yogurt also sounds like a pretty good idea? Dried fruits and veggies are also good options. Kaelyn went through a dried fruit stage and I discovered that some of them have a lot of great nutritional value (a little too much sugar, but it was worth the trade off to me).Also, I’ve found that both of my girls will eat foods cold that I would never have dreamed of. A couple weeks ago, the girls were playing in the kitchen while I was straightening out the living room. I came back in to the room to discover that Kaelyn had opened the fridge and freezer. Both girls were sitting on the floor happily eating cold pasta and frozen french fries. So, maybe sending her favorite fish and hot dog in the thermos container won’t be such a bad idea. If they cool down, she might still eat them.What about a cream cheese and jelly sandwich? Some of my students would bring that when my school went pb free.Last thought, Kaelyn is a very moody eater and we used to worry about it constantly. Over the last month or so, I tried to stop worrying about it and we’ve noticed that if she isn’t a huge fan of whatever we serve for lunch, she usually makes it up at dinner. Or, she’ll have a whole day where she eats next to nothing and she’ll eat double her usual amount the following day. So… maybe she’ll surprise you and do just fine with cold lunches (especially because everyone else in the room will be eating them). But, if not, hopefully she’ll just eat more at dinner that night.August 24, 2007 at 3:17 pm #41608Anonymous
InactiveI was going to suggest cream cheese sandwiches too. What about spaghettios or something like that in the thermos? Seth loves the Dole fruit cups (especially the mandarin orange ones). You could do string cheese, crackers and fruit. Cereal bars? Do you think she would eat a sandwich if it were cut into a shape? What about chicken salad, hummus or pimento cheese? Cinnamon raisin bread w/ cream cheese or butter?
August 24, 2007 at 3:21 pm #41609Anonymous
InactiveGriffin used to eat anything and everything! He moved up to the preschool room and now he’s more picky, but still a wonderful eater. I do think that the peer pressure is there and that’s why he won’t eat certain things he used to. So maybe the peer pressure will work in the opposite way for you. Maybe if she sees the other kids eating, she’ll join right in. And maybe she will just be hungry enough??
Sounds harsh, but I don’t make anything special for Griffin, if we have it, he eats it. I just didn’t want to get into the habit of having to make PBJ all the time if we were having more “adult” food. DH was also raised that if it’s put on your plate, you eat it, so he’s more the stickler. It works well and like Kim said she may just eat enough to satisfy, and then make up for it at other meals!August 24, 2007 at 3:28 pm #41610Anonymous
InactiveHi Becky!
You crack me up!… This time, I’m laughing (okay, I’m really crying!) right along with you, b/c Sarah (who’s basically the same age as Hannah) is starting public school JK next week. Ang guess what… they don’t do lunches either.Now Sarah used to be a GREAT eater, but after spending her “formative years” with Hailey and her feeding aversion, she’s learned a few tips on how to be super fussy. Now my once great eater has a list of about 5 meals that she’ll eat (none of which include vegetables) and most of which are not easy for lunches.So, we went to Canadian Tire and invested in a great little thermos type holder, that will keep hot things warm until lunch time- that way we can bring something like pasta (plain pasta, of course), her favourite. Otherwise, my non-sandwich-eating child will be having torn up turkey meat, bagels with cream cheese on the side, and I have no idea what else.About the peanut butter, have you ever tried the one called “no nuts”. It’s actually pea butter, and I’ve found that it tastes almost as good (or as yucky) as regular peanut butter, but I’m not a connoseur.Anyhow, check out the thermos containers… it might add to your sanity. And keep me posted on any great ideas that you come across. We can shed tears together (though I understand it’s a whole different emotional issue when dealing with a child with a past food aversion, and a regular fussy eater who has only lived with a sibling with a food aversion). HUGS. Good luck.August 25, 2007 at 10:06 am #41636Anonymous
InactiveHey there, Becky! Always good to “see” you around! And thanks for the “Old Timer” reference. I was just thinking it has been 4 YEARS that i have been coming here!!!
Anyway, I feel your pain. Not much to add but if the Almond butter is OK at the school that Dylan will eat that, or can you do a yogurt and some snack foods for lunch? The thermos idea is great! Even if you warm things in the morning, and then put them in the cooler, it acts like an insulator (I think, my bad science skills are showing through), so if you don’t put the ice pack in, I think it might stay warm enough.Sorry I don’t have better advice, but wanted to say “hey”!Hope things are well!!!Ann MarieAugust 25, 2007 at 11:18 am #41644hellbennt
Keymasterok here’s my take on everything, LOL- I use those little gladware containers, the 4oz ones- also rubbermaid makes this size- you could actually explore the world of bento boxes (seems up your alley!)- laptop lunches I think is one site- anyway- I THINK food won’t spoil from the time it’s out of your fride, into an insulated bag and then eaten at lunch time- that’s my opinion- but I’m here where everything is super air conditioned-
so what I do is make food and pack it up and by lunchtime it’s room temperature…not sure of what temperature it is exactly- you can experiment at home, LOL to see what it is…so I do LOTS of frozen: Munchies (health is wealth brand- might be soy so I don’t know, but jonah eats the spinach/cheese ones. again, might be soy cheese? and, he eats the veggie ones- they’re like the inside of a veggie eggroll- I get them at whole foods- there are other varieties too)and Amy’s brand ‘squares’- jonah eats the spinach feta, but there are lots more varieties like bean & cheese, pizza, etc…I follow the microwave instructions then stick them in the toaster oven & ‘toast’ to get them a little/lightly brown, then I wrap them in foil and stick in the lunch box- I think the foil helps them stay warmish- I don’t think this’ll promote spoilage? Jonah seems to be no worse for the wear, LOL!I also do this with fish sticks, but you could do the same w/ chicken nuggets, etc- there are also spinach and broccoli nuggets if she’ll eat them- jonah won’t…I also found frozen hashbrown patties- think mcdonald’s shape- but they don’t have any ‘bad’ ingredients- I do the same- microwave then toast then wrap in foilalso, I pack up all kinds of pasta- spinach/cheese raviolis (picky jonah will eat ravioli but not tortellinis- there are tons of pastas to try/make if your little one will eat ’em), frozen perogies, plain noodles and butter, mac n’ cheese (put in hot)- using those gladware 4 oz containers…(could look into ‘safer’ plastic alternatives but I have not)these also go into the containers:beansalmondscheese cubes (I also throw in a string cheese stick- whatever’s in the fridge)apple sauce (either use a container or buy prepackaged- it’s cheaper to buy a big jar- I buy Mott’s unsweetened organic)baby carrots (these go in a sandwhich baggie)fruitoh, I also do little containers of frozen veggies- I microwave and put them in hot (yeah not so good for those plastic containers, bad mama, sigh, but hey he eats them)so maybe try putting hot foods in plastic (or whatever) and then wrapping in foil to help retain the heat?hmm…HTH? (hope this helps)oh & jonah’s school is peanut free, but no one has said anything about me sending him with almonds…hellbennt2007-08-26 11:11:39
August 25, 2007 at 7:29 pm #41672Anonymous
InactiveWe are starting preschool here too!
Hailey’s school also only has cold lunches. I asked the teacher what kids usually bring and she said sandwiches and lunchables. Neither of which Hailey will really eat.
Most of her food is hot too. She does a lot of hot dogs, mac n cheese, grilled cheese sandwiches, etc. I’m not really sure what to do. I did give her a peanut butter sandwich for lunch today (thankfully, I haven’t heard anything about her school being peanut free) and she ate a decent amount of it. I’m guessing I’ll be sending her the same things each day she’s there. You guys all had some good ideas though that I hadn’t thought of so thanks! debit342007-08-25 19:30:22August 27, 2007 at 2:21 am #41749Anonymous
InactiveI have sent a mixture of cashews, almonds, dried cherries, craisins(sp?) and raisins in a little container (which she decorated with stickers). I also do cheese cubes or sticks, rice crackers and pretzels. And we could use almond butter so I’ve sent it and a small amount of jelly in a container with a little wooden stick and she eats more than what would typically be on a sandwich.How would Hannah do with making her own? Maybe send a slice of bread and some fixings that she could put together. It might still be the same type you would make, but she may think it’s different since she made it??? Or if you cut the bread and cheese into large shapes she could stack? You could use a different type of bread, bagel etc with the same fixings. She may think it’s a different sandwich? How about crackers? Will she eat them with cheese or cream cheese? Pretzel rods are great for dipping! Cream cheese, cheese spread or a peanut free butter. What about cashew butter? YUM!I was so over the top with Kayleigh’s snacks last fall that the teacher actually wrote me a note stating that it was not necessary to send her with 8 different choices, asking that I please slim it down to 3-4.
OOPS This year she will be attending a different school that serves there own snack. So this will be a change in how we do things. I’ll miss sending her little notes inside her snack bag. I hope Hannah, Hailey and Sarah all enjoy school and meet many new friends! When does everyone start? We start on Sept 4. Good Luck to all!August 27, 2007 at 9:03 am #41757Anonymous
InactiveBecky-
I did want to let you know, that if things just become too hard, and she needs heated meals, you can always make an issue of it. Feeding aversions are special needs, and the school board is required to make accomodations in the same way as for other needs if they can. So if they have a microwave, and she needs her food microwaved, then they have to do it. That’s the case in Canada, but I’ve also heard other people in the US who have kids with more severe feeding aversions where the school board has had to accomodate. I’m not sure if your situation is that desperate, but just thought I’d put it out there. Good luck.Lynn-Thanks for the well-wishes. She starts her new daycare on the 4th (which is also a JK program) and her JK at the public school on the 11th (she only goes 2 days one week and 3 days the other). I’m SO nervous for her. Good luck to all… it’s a big change.August 27, 2007 at 10:01 am #41763Anonymous
Inactivethanks to everyone for the well wishes and suggestions. i appreciate and had to laugh at many of the responses to my pathetic plea, especially laura’s telling me “baby carrots (these go in a plastic baggie).” and erica: you are pretty darn lucky griffin is such a great eater, i dream of a day when she’ll eat the same dinners as me and my husband (we had ratatoullie last night — i am still shocked she’ll eat brocolli)…
i think i have cleared my head a bit and feel better, but i am still worried about the no peanut butter thing…and, though i really hate putting this in writing, she still has some major texture issues — applesauce is out, yogurt on a spoon — out, pb and j (in combo, not isolation) — never…not even pudding…so explain why she’ll eat ice cream and drink shakes? its just the sliminess factor of foods, thus the no fruit unless its dried (she hates cereal in milk — barfed on the spot the last time we tried that one).so — added to the surefire list:seedscream cheese sandwicheshot dog in a thermos (hee hee — i don’t know why that makes me giggle)noodles in a thermoscontainers of nut butters, if allowed — for dipping and spoonetci think that the feeding aversion for us really got us away from healthier eating as a whole, although we do try to focus on organic and all natural foods as a family and i know enough about nutrition to ensure a balance of protein and carbs, fats, — good ones, etc.. i thank my lucky stars that she loves veggies, chicken, cheese, and fish…and will take her drinking danimals and chocolate milk…but i am sorry to say that she’d take cheez-its over baby carrots or hummus any day. although yesterday she did chose raisins for a snack…unless you’ve lived with one of these nutty eaters, there is no understanding the compulsiveness it can drive you to in ensuring balance in their intake.
i am not worried about her weight…she is extremely active and strong, however, without food, she is hyperactive followed by hysterical…here’s the positive of the struggle — i am actually pleased to report that she is a healthy 42 plus inches tall and close to 40#…she has turned into quite the swimmer (for those of you who take your kids to YMCAs — she’s an EEL now).
the bentobox concept is a great one:i had looked into this when i first considered lunchables. last week, hannah had a friend over and i tested actual lunchables.the lunch meat inside was pretty gross. both kids ate the cheese and crackers and then asked for something else. so i then thought — hey “cheese and crackers,” and “something else, ” and added that to my list. love those gladware containers. the bento box things are a little pricey — so i’d feel guilty putting stickers on those, but will definitely decorate the gladwares. i need to check on “seeds” because pumpkin seeds go over big here…she will definitely thrive on the positive peer pressure. i know most of the moms and kids who will be in her class and we’ve already talked about the challenges of no peanuts/ hot foods for them. i know it will catch on.good luck for the new school year for all…you guys are the best — so many thanks for all of the responses. let me know how it goes for you…August 27, 2007 at 10:11 am #41765Anonymous
Inactiveoh, forgot to add that the foil in the for the frozen foods is a great idea — thanks laura…and to all that suggested the cookie cutters for sandwiches — also awesome…a butterfly cookie cutter is a most valued kitchen accessory around here.
August 27, 2007 at 2:11 pm #41773Anonymous
InactiveBecky,
Thanks for the tips. Believe me, I understand the insanity that can come from living with a child with a feeding aversion. Only someone who’s lived it could ever see how it could be called a special need. Even when the aversion part has passed, it seems that the insane pickiness isn’t so quick to resolve. Hailey’s issues with texture and smell and squishiness or sliminess are often enough to do me in. But it’s so much better than it used to be, and sometimes she asks for “more” and I almost start to cry remembering the screaming baby who wanted nothing to do with oral sustenance whatsoever. I’m so happy to read about Hannah’s growth, and it sounds like you have a future swimming champ on your hands. Good luck with the luchtime woes.s&h’s mum2007-08-27 14:46:41
August 27, 2007 at 3:59 pm #41783Anonymous
Inactivesorry to hijack – just wanted to say hi Stacey!! It was so good to see your post.
Hope all is well and Happy Belated Birthday to Hailey. Where has the time gone? It seems like just yesterday, we all had babies!! -
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