prevacid diarrhea

[Anonymous]

Has anyone had this experience? I know there is lactose in the pill but I don’t think he is allergic to milk.

Also, he has been on prevacid 7.5mg/2x day for 2 weeks now and there hasn’t been much improvement. What little improvement we saw in te beginning is going away and he is going back to his old ways. Has anyone had this experince?

[Anonymous]

Justice had diarrhea when we started his zegerid. I think that is normal. Have you checked the marci-kids website to see if the dose is correct?

[Anonymous]

I know his dose is too low-he needs one more 7.5mgs a day but I have a hard time believing one more doese will make a big difference.

Also, Jack is BF-so diarrhea is hard to diagnos.

[Anonymous]

a higher dose will give you a compltetely different baby. his dose is so low, he might as well not even take the prevacid.
it has to be high enough to shut off the acid pumps.

[Anonymous]

nataliachick7 wrote: his dose is so low, he might as well not even take the prevacid.

I agree with the sentiment that it might be worthwhile to try a higher dose, but I wouldn’t go that far personally.

Joel from marci-kids once described it to me as sending soldiers in to fight a battle- the more you have the more power you have. The higher your dose, the more acid pumps will be shut off. Adding the third dose or just giving higher doses in general, will help to shut off more pumps to make sure that he’s not having breakthrough acid. If enough pumps aren’t shut off then he’ll still have symptoms.

It’s not necessarily the solution, but it’s worth a try if he’s still showing signs. Once you hit the magic number you should see his pain decrease significantly. Good luck.

s&h’s mum2007-2-1 11:31:44

[Anonymous]

Oh yeah, as for the diarrhea, we always had the opposite- severe constipation.

[Anonymous]

s&h’s mum wrote:

[QUOTE=nataliachick7]his dose is so low, he might as well not even take the prevacid.

I agree with the sentiment that it might be worthwhile to try a higher dose, but I wouldn’t go that far personally.

Joel from marci-kids once described it to me as sending soldiers in to fight a battle- the more you have the more power you have. The higher your dose, the more acid pumps will be shut off. Adding the third dose or just giving higher doses in general, will help to shut off more pumps to make sure that he’s not having breakthrough acid. If enough pumps aren’t shut off then he’ll still have symptoms.

It’s not necessarily the solution, but it’s worth a try if he’s still showing signs. Once you hit the magic number you should see his pain decrease significantly. Good luck.

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dr phillips once said that if the ppi dose is too low, that it wouldnt work “a little”, but it wouldnt “work at all”. you have to give a certain amount of the ppi to even shut off acid pumps.
so its pointless to give such a small dose.
originally i thought it said 7.5 once a day, now i see that its 2 times a day, but thats still significantly lower than marci kids recommends im sure.
personally, i think a proper PPI dose is the answer about 95% of the time. the other parts go to food intolerances and MSPI in which case proper diet have to be followed along with the high PPI dose.

[Anonymous]

My intent wasn’t to start a debate, just to give a different perspective. There are many children on doses much lower than marci-kids recommends that still get relief, which indicates to me that they are getting SOME degree of relief even from a lower dose. I do agree that a higher dose is definitely the way to go if you’re still seeing symptoms, but unfortunately even with diet, it’s not always the answer.

As for a proper dose being the answer 95 percent of the time and the rest going to food intolerances I can’t argue with your personal opinion, but unfortunately, I’ve run into quite a few children who don’t find such straightforward answers.

As I said, I’m not trying to argue- I know that you are just trying to help, and you’re entitled to your opinion. I guess I was just put off a bit by the tone.

s&h’s mum2007-2-1 12:28:17

[Anonymous]

im writing everything quickly and breifly because i have a screaming teething baby in my arms, so i apologize if i come off snappy or something along those lines.

yes there are children on much lower doses than marci kids recommends. they still get relief, and i believe that is because their reflux is less severe. my son requires extremely high doses of PPI and his reflux is quite severe.
if your child is doing poorly on a low dose, to me it seems like common sense that they need a higher PPI dose-preferably the dose that marci kids recommends. some people wonder why their child isnt improving and havent even attempted to increase the PPI dose.
that is all i was trying to say.

[Anonymous]

I agree with you- if your child is not doing well on a low dose, the next step would be to try a higher dose as soon as possible (preferably marci-kids).

I think we’re on the same page. I guess that given our experience, I’m a bit sensitive when people say that high dose of PPI is a magic answer. I’ve learned the hard way that the higer dose doesn’t always solve everything. Believe me, I wish it did.

[Anonymous]

So I guess to sum it up…an extra dose is worth a try! It might make a difference, it might not…but at least it is something to cross of your list Also, you said you are BF…have you tried The elimination diet (TED) to see if it could be a food intolerance? Milk is not the only thing babies can be intolerant to.,

Finally, I know there is another mother on the board that said that her baby did not experience relief until 2.5 weeks. Maybe your LO just needs a few more days.

[Anonymous]

Bryce’s nurse told me that Prevacid can cause diarrhea in some babies. I haven’t noticed that with Bryce, but I think it’s a definite possibility. It might just take Jack some time for his body to adjust to the medicine.
Bryce’sMom2007-2-1 14:6:45

[Anonymous]

Thanks everyone for your replies. I tried the elimination diet a couple weeks ago for 5 days but went off because Jack was starting the prevacid the same time and I wanted to see what would happen with the medicine. I did see changes with the medicine after about 5 days-he was sleeping longer at night although he was still moving a lot especially as the night wore on. But now he has been on the medicine for over 2 weeks he is almost back where he was before the medicine-very depressing, I just want to give up and maybe hust accept that this is how it will be until he outgrows it.

I faxed a letter to his doc yesterday about whats been going on and begging for help. Well she is on vacation so the covering GI called back and he said he would up the dose-that Jack is already on the highest dose for his weight based on the Prilosec studies. I asked him to look at MARCI-kids and he said he would but I am not holding my breath. Anyway, he suggested thickened feeds and then maybe switching meds to another PPI. I asked for a switch to Zegerid because it can be given anytime and he said to wait to talk to my doc when she returns. In the meantime he said to give Axid before bed. Well he already gets his second prevacid dose before bed as it is so I gave him some axid in the middle of the night which did nothing-as I suspected.

The good news is we are getting a second opinion next Thurs from a doctor I found on this forum recommended by another Mom so lets hope she has some answers.

As for the diarrhea-he still has green poops and seems to fore poops out all day and night long. When he is eating he always grunts one out but recently he forcing them out when he sleeps and it is the littlest amt but apparently he wants it out.

I am back on the TED-today is day 3.

[hellbennt]

hang in there with the diet! it is HARD but I was so glad I did it- I was desperate, & wanted to rule everything out…good news about your upcoming visit w/ a different doctor!

[Anonymous]

I see some typos in my last msg-the covering GI said would NOT up his dose-that Jack is on the highest dose he would give. I asked @ Zegerid and he said he doesn’t use it often b/c of all the sodium in it.

Also should i even be on the TED is Jack isn’t on the highest dose of meds?

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