Teething HELP! Increase meds?!?!

[Anonymous]

Hi again!! I tried to do a quick search but with Sarah on my lap fussing I figured I could type my situation faster than searching for my answers…

This is just awful!!!!!!!!!!! Sarah is screaming most of the day and FORGET about sleeping. Her nose is running (is this normal with teething???) so she can’t suck her thumb to put herself back to sleep and can’t breathe on top of that. I’m at my wits end! I feel like we have our reflux monster baby all over again!

I’ve tried hylands, tylenol, and benadryl…all with minimal short lived relief. We have a warm-mist humidifier in her room to try to help with her breathing. We also elevated her crib mattress a little. Last night after 2 hours of screaming (12-2am) we put her to sleep in the swing. I DO NOT want to revert back to old BAD habits, but DH and I both have to get up for work!

Her gums are swollen and I can see at least one tooth (although I’m hoping it’s MORE). Once they are at the WORST stages of teething…how long does it last??? Is this going to continue forever??? We’ve had THREE really rough nights of no sleep and the past two days have been the worst with fussiness. It gets worse as the day goes on.

Meds…I have read somewhere before on here that moms increase the reflux meds while teething. How do you go about doing that? She is on Zegerid…just put a little more in each dose? I still have some Zantac from back in May…will that do? Or should I just do mylanta as needed?

I feel like I’m shoving every possible medication down her throat but she is not handling this teething thing very well. When I say she is teething…I don’t mean the “pre” symptoms that can last months before the tooth erupts…I can SEE the tooth so I’m hoping this is the worst it’s going to get…RIGHT!?!?!?!?!

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!

Boy, this ended up being pretty long having a screaming baby on my lap!
Amy

[Anonymous]

I feel really bad posting this but Colt started teething at 6 months and he is 20 months old now and has been teething all this time. We did increase his meds a little when teething was the worse. We also gave him motrin because tylenol didn’t help him at all. I think I would just try an extra ml. of Zegerid in the morning and at bedtime. Doctors are pretty good if you don’t increase it too much. So I would try small doses. Also we used saline drops in his nose because when he couldn’t breath he would scream until he ended up vomiting.

[Anonymous]

hi amy

yep, i agree with the motrin (not that i know from experience, shane is too young, but my neice uses it). and i know shane just got over being sick, i know he didnt have a temperature, but his nose was crazy and he couldnt sleep because he does the binky. sooo he was over tired and cried as well.. and we also did the saline drops.. and than sucked everything out with the “nose sucker”? and there is something else from hylands that i have, that you rub on their gums, and isnt the tablets.. its supposed to work well and is for inflamed gums and something is in it that helps them sleep

well i hope she feels better soon!

[Anonymous]

yep dr phillips suggested increasing meds when they are teeting bad. his suggestion was to give it 4 times instead of 3, but whatever you do its your call.
i find tha tylenol doesnt do much and i do give benadryl at night occasionally. the teething tablests are okay but they wear off in like an hour.
i noticed that Sarah is only on 30 mg of zegerid, Trace is up to 42-the marci-kids dose for his age/weight, so dont be nervous about increasing it.

[Anonymous]

yep, nose sucker time when they teeth, Aidan is working on his top left fron tooth, and is miserable!!!! I don’t use motrin as frequently as I used to but will buy some tomorrow as he is clearly in pain and the tylenol (and I knew this) did nothing. Saline and the horrible nose sucker are the best thing for the stuffy noses (Aidan HATES the nose sucker, I think most of them do, but it works!) I hope he gets some teeth in there soon! Aidan was a little monster last month but finally 2 teeth popped in at once!!! I think that the time span between when I SAW the bottom teeth and when they popped up was about a week or 2? This one is being a bugger, keeps ALMOST popping out, then his gums swell over it.-I think the other stuff is called teething powder? I looked but the only place I could find to buy it was online, and I never did. I used gripe water just because I figured, hey it can’t hurt (the kind I used didn’t have charcoal in it). MANY HUGS to you and Sarah!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Thank you everyone! I was absolutely at my wits end! I tried mylanta tonight and she was PERFECT! I didn’t hear another fuss/shriek/or whine out of her the rest of the night. (about an hour after I gave it she went to bed) I HOPE that it wasn’t a fluke. It would make sense if it was reflux flairing up b/c her symptoms and behavior were identical to how she acted before Zegerid. She is asleep right now in her crib (went down without a peep)…now the true test is if she can stay down the whole night. BUT IF NOT…the mylanta will be right next to her bed!!!

The main reason I am convinced now it has been reflux bothering her is b/c prior to the mylanta she wouldn’t let me anywhere near her gums and after I gave her the mylanta she let me check out her mouth for a good few minutes! She didn’t even care!! I HOPE HOPE HOPE it is the reflux and not teething. We KNOW how to fight reflux …I was going crazy and feeling helpless not knowing what else to do about her teething.

Natalia – Did Dr. Phillips suggest giving the same total dosage just spread out with 4 doses instead of 3 or actually INCREASING the total dosage? Also, Sarah is on the 20mg packets and I think Trace is on the 40mg packets…that’s why there’s such a big difference in the mg amount.

I just checked the marci-kids dosing calculator. When Sarah started Zegerid, she was at the “high” end of the range (21mg to 30mg…they prescribed 30mg). Now that she weighs a little more it suggests 24mg to 33mg. Even though her dose still falls into this range, I’m going to see if the doc will increase it to 33mg. She has just done SOOO well with the highest dose, so it’s worth a shot. We go next week for her flu shot so I’m definitely going to mention it. No, demand it!

Ok, if you’re still reading this…sorry for babbling! Reflux truly is a monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t know what I would do without this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!

[Anonymous]

oooo i didnt realize she was on the 20 mg packs sorry!!

he meant give an extra dose -as in you would increase the med dose.

Trace is teething- it stinks!!

[Anonymous]

nope its not the powder.. its hylands teething gel.

amy .. u are right the teething does make the reflux worse now that i think back… its probably just peaking right now.. well i hope u and her get some relief soon

[Anonymous]

One last note – WHY is it that babies hate the nose sucker soooo much? Sarah screams absolutely hysterical bloody murder when I use it on her. I thought maybe she was just weird…glad it’s other babies too. 🙂 She doesn’t like her nose to be wiped, or boogers to be picked either. What’s up with that?

Amy

[Anonymous]

shane screams too.. i know he coughs all the time after i do it.. .maybe that has something to do with it??? not sure

[Anonymous]

personally i still hate blowing my nose-i always have, its a weird feeling.

[Anonymous]

nose sucker tips-

Try to get one with the biggest opening at the end as possible, you shouldn’t stick it too far up their hose, membranes are delicate up there!

Try to cover the oposite nostril when suctioning the other one (usually need 2 people for this one)

Try to aim towards the side of their nose, for some reason this works better (inside of their nose)

If possible spray the saline and wait a few mins, a lot of the time, they will automatically sneeze which makes our work easier!!! as in don’t put “drops” in, just give the bottle a squeeze and use it the nose spray way. Our md told my sister to do this with her 4 month old.

wait til the saline runs out to try to suction again

and if your darling is like my little boy and you’re by yourself, a tiny little “baby headlock” might be in order-lol (kidding kidding)

Tonight I broke down and gave Aidan some litle colds, he’s not 2, but wieghs as much as his cousin who is 2, and my sister gives him cold medicine..he was just so miserable and needed to get some sleep and I am out of benadryl, which usually dries him up enough. oh well, as fate would have it we are going to the ENT tomorrow for a followup with both my little guys, so hopefully he’ll confirn it’s just teething crap. ( I know the little colds has the pheynly whatever in it that the replaced phenelephedrine with but he’s had it before with no issues)

humidifiers are GREAT!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

About the nose sucker….I don’t know if this is true or not but my dh swears that it hurts their ears when you suck their noses out with it. All of my kids hate it and I realized (finally according to dh) that it doesn’t help all that much anyway, so I don’t use them anymore. When they have a cold or URI, no matter how much you suck out their nose it just fills up again anyway.

[Anonymous]

amy0013 wrote: Sarah is on the 20mg packets and I think Trace is on the 40mg packets…that’s why there’s such a big difference in the mg amount.

I was just wondering why the mg amount would be different with the 20mg vs 40 mg packets? I’ve heard other people say this on the site as well, but it doesn’t make sense to me since the mg is referring to the drug and not the total ml of solution. I would think that the mg you would give should be the same regardless of whether you were giving the 20 or the 40mg packets, but that the overall mls given might be different. Again, I was just wondering (we don’t use zegerid).

Also, just wanted to throw this out there… might she have a cold on top of teething? My kids never really got “runny” noses from teething, but it seems like others have.

Glad to hear that the mylanta helped. Teething does stink!!!… come to think of it, so does reflux!

[Anonymous]

Lori – Good question about the 20mg and 40mg packets…but I don’t know the answer!! For some reason they are different, don’t know why though!

Sarah may have a slight cold but I really think the runny nose is from teething. At her height of fussiness (2-3 days ago) her nose was like a faucet and getting clogged at night. She has acted a little better that past 2 days (the tooth is ALMOST through the skin) and her nose isn’t running as much?!?! I know most doctors say that teething does NOT cause runny noses/fevers but I bet there are a lot of moms who would swear otherwise!

Oh the joys of teething and reflux!!!!

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