freaking out-Trace has given up formula

[Anonymous]

yay! i just tricked him…i gave him a sippy with rice milk and added two scoops of neocate. i wanted to start slow so he wouldnt reject it. he drank most of it.

brenda thanks for that link.

i havent been putting in the rice milk instead of the water at night…bc i was concerned about all the sugar content…but i think i will now, bc he could really use those calories.

[Anonymous]

Natalia, you are so smart! So glad he drank Neocate in the cup. I know what you mean about all the sugar, but I haven’t found an alternative to the rice drink. Carson drinks it, so we have stuck with it. He needs the calories, so I just let him drink it. I also cook with it: mashed potatoes, sauces (flour, his butter, rice milk), cakes, cookies, brownies, scalloped potatoes, etc., and it doesn’t taste too much different. My other kids havn’t caught on yet – but hubby knew.

It is amazing what we do to get the food/calories into these lo’s. You are doing a great job! Go, Trace, drink that rice milk!!

[Anonymous]

oh thats great natalia! that should make you feel MUCH better! is there like a neocate 2 ? like a follow formula for it? maybe that would be better now.. so the little he drinks he will get more nutrients?

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shanesmom wrote: oh thats great natalia! that should make you feel MUCH better! is there like a neocate 2 ? like a follow formula for it? maybe that would be better now.. so the little he drinks he will get more nutrients?

there are. there is neocate one and neocate jr. however, i have read so many stories of babies not being able to tolerate these for some reason, then they just end up being back on neocate infant but extra cal. it would just be too much of a hassle with our insurance and wic. i would have to get prescriptions faxed to several places. it would take them a month just to process the information and send us the new cans, and if it didnt work out, im sure it would take them another month to process all the information and once again supply us with neocate infant. it would just be a huge nightmare. we cannpt afford any of it out of pocket. we have been getting $500 a month in neocate and we use it up till the last scoop

lauren-have you thought about doing that? getting a few cans of neocate a month and sneaking in some scoops into his rice milk or whatever? im so happy Trace doesnt notice a difference!

nataliachick72007-6-4 22:17:35

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We got a free can of Neocate One from our Peds GI Spec and it only took a bottle to know that Carson couldn’t tolerate it. The nutritionist said she isn’t sure what it is, but a lot of their special kids can’t tolerate it. She said it is really – when you come down to it – the same ingredients but it IS a shift in fats, proteins, carbs and for some reason it bothers their little systems. It may work great for him, but I know for us, it wasn’t an alternative.

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I’m late to the thread, but would like to comment on the raw milk issue. It is also not reccomended in Aus…the main reason being Listeria, this is a deadly infection for many people and non-pastuerised dairy is a source. I agree that you can’t believe everything you read in the mainstream media, but I guess that you can apply that logic to a lot of sources of information. Don’t mean to offend by that later statement, its just my opinion.

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I’m sorry I didn’t have a chance to get back on and comment earlier, but we’ve been busy-

Natalia, yes, I did receive your pm and sent you a message back. It didn’t say your box was full, so I don’t know why you didn’t receive it. I’ll forward it again.

About the raw milk issue- I did not mean to insult anyone. As I said before, I’m not a fan of “mainstream media” either, but I also classify internet information in this group as well. There’s a wealth of knowledge on the internet, but you have to be careful what you’re reading and consider who the source is- I don’t really value the opinion of a biased article on raw milk facts. I put more stock in the position paper put out by health Canada on the topic, or even better, the source data itself. I have read quite a bit about the raw milk debate prior to the newspaper article (which was about a local farmer who was selling his raw milk in a parking lot near my house), since a month or so prior, Health Canada issued us all a reminder about the importance of ensuring that your milk is pasteurized. This is what we were sent that prompted me to read a bit more on my own:

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/securit/facts-faits/rawmilk-lai tcru_e.html

Pasteurization of milk was invented for a reason. Of course now, that reason is not as severe as it was back then because now we have the medical knowledge to treat ecoli and salmonella. But it’s been legislatively banned for another reason- which is that they know it’s one way they can control some bacterial illness. While you might not get sick from the consumption of raw milk, you can get others sick who are more vulnerable and could die from it. And treating increased illness puts a strain on the already strained healthcare system.

It was mentioned that the same bacterial illnesses can be contracted from other foodborne sources- raw meat, vegetables, contaminated equipment, etc. This is true. But that is not a reason to suggest that the government tells people it’s okay to drink raw milk. Rather it’s a reason that they need tougher standards in place in other areas of food service. If they remove the legislation on raw milk, why not remove the legislation surrounding the farming and refrigeration of eggs and raw meats? It’s a philosophical argument- a slippery slope. Why not remove the standards established surrounding the cleaning of public washrooms?… did you know that public change tables do not have the same cleaning requirements and were tested to be found to be a huge source of ecoli!

I think that sometimes we have to look at the big picture- what’s best for the greater good. Things are often fine if a small group of people do it, but not when everyone does. For this reason, they have to look at what would happen if everyone did it. New diseases and illnesses are resurfacing because of the climate and environmental changes, and these things put us and our children at a real risk that our parents’ generation did not have to worry about. We need to control the spread of disease wherever we can.

Again, that’s just my opinion.

s&h’s mum2007-6-5 9:2:46

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Thanks, Lori.

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