AnonymousInactive
Yes, milk sensitivities can cause eczema. All three of my children had some dairy sensitivity and eczema in the first year and I had to be dairy free while nursing.
I would not give up nursing either. The Elimination Diet will help you to determine what foods effect him so that you can continue breast feeding.
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most reflux babies have a sensitvity to milk protein and often times soy protein too-its called MSPI.
basically, there are a lot of successful breastfeeding moms who cut out ALL DAIRY (read labels-casein, whey, etc) and ALL soy. this usually makes a huge difference. in our case,switching to neocate helped with his relfux pain tremendously, as milk/soy proteins in an intolerant baby can damage the gi tract and cause reflux flair ups.
what your son has is not necessarily an allergy-often times its an intolerance. an yes, excema is often related to some sort of dairy/soy intolerance/allergy.
here is a really good article about allergies and intolerances in relation to reflux:
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~disa/Food%20intol-alergic%20baby. html
AnonymousInactive
Hi it.s Rosemary. Mother of Van. I was skimming the posts in various
forums
and from what I have gathered, it seems as though my son has an allergy
to
something in my milk. I am currently breastfeeding and I am not willing
to
stop. Like some Ped’a have told me to do
My son has frothy,
sometimes mucusy stools and ECZEMA! I didn’t realize that his allergies
could appear in his skin appearance. So do I have to do a total elimination
diet and then add things back in? Or should I just start taking things out
one by one. Obviously I should start with MILK.
Any advice?
I just feel like he is getting more nutrition from breastfeeding than
formula even with allergies.
I am willing to do what it takes. I guess I just need some guidance and
support.
So Eczema can be cause by MILK allergy?
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Hello. My 2nd son is 9 months old and I’m breast feeding and have been dairy free since he was about 2 months old. Since he turned about 6 months we’ve been medicine free. We’ve had 3 solid decent months (still wakes up at 4 a.m. for the day and doesn’t nap well, but that is such an improvement I feel bad complaining), and I think I’m ready to start trialing dairy.
I’d love any suggestions. I guess I start by eating it myself, instead of giving it to him directly, right? How long should I wait for a reaction? When I was eating dairy, his poo was so smelly and mucosy, I’m pretty sure I’ll be able to tell if he’s having a reaction, but you never know. He’s teething and I’m afraid I might mistake his fussiness as being from teething as opposed to the dairy — it’s so hard to tell!
Anyway, could you all tell me what you did when you trialed dairy?
He does get one bottle a day of Alimentum or breast milk (if I’ve had time to pump). I guess I could just give him regular formula in that bottle if I’m going to give him dairy directly (but I think he had a reaction to the corn in some of the formulas — could not tolerate powder Alimentum, only RTF — of course — expensive taste).
Thanks in advance.
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Tracy and Christine thank you for your replies.
The tests came back negative is what the doctor told us so I am assuming both of the DQ2 and DQ8 came back ok. I didn’t know for sure what celiac test they did until I received a letter in the mail yesterday from Prometheus (re: that insurance may not pay the $500 and that we will be responsible for the amount if insurance doesn’t pay).
The doctors ordered the celiac and also a cystic fibrosis sweat test for her because she is in the less than 3% for weight and height, wheat allergies run in my family and my husband and I are both of French Canadian descent(which according to the nutritionist it is very prevalent with French Canadians). Apparently the nutritionist we went to thought that her growth curve looked very much like that of many children with celiac. The CF test they admitted was a longshot and it came back negative.
I really wasn’t convinced that it was celiac disease but once they brought it up and their reasoning(plus big family history of colon cancer which I read can happen if diet is not followed) I started to get concerned which is why I am wondering if there is still a chance she could have it.
I truly believe Chloe’s weight is okay (until I see the GI and they make a big deal about it). I wasn’t 20 pounds until I was over 2 years old. I am under 5 feet and I come from a family with many short people. You could line up my mother and grandmother with me and we are all under 5 feet. And my husband has some short people in his family including a great aunt about 4 foot 6. Plus Chloe is breastfed and the WHO growth charts that I found on Kellymom show Chloe as doing fine AND staying on a curve. They didn’t want to hear about those curves. Needless to say my husband and I had words with them.
Fortunately at the follow up they laid off and I noticed they had the newer WHO charts that I had not given them and they had Chloe’s weights plotted on them and they specifically referred to them and stated that she was on the curve.(score a point for mommy!).
Sorry, I got off on a tangent but I am still pretty ticked about that visit. I can’t stand doctors that don’t know a lot about breastfeeding and aren’t open to hearing about it.
Thanks again for your replies.
chloe’s mom2007-6-16 19:27:4
AnonymousInactive
Is is possible that you have OAL? Maybe the flow is too fast when you first start nursing her and then slows as she feeds so she calms down.
Also, yes it’s very possible that babies will want to nurse for comfort (even when they are not in pain). I’ve known moms of non-refluxers who loved to be on the boob and used it as a pacifier (especially when they were tired). Sometimes they get frustrated because they want to suck for comfort, but they don’t want food because they are not hungry. I babysat for a baby who even did this with the bottle. He wanted the bottle all the time, hungry or not, and especially when he was tired, but then he’d get frustrated that milk was coming out because he didn’t actually want to eat.
AnonymousInactive
it def. sounds like she is in pain from reflux during feedings. reflux pain is worse at some times and better at others. she may keep eating bc she is starving. my son would cry, suck, cry, suck….then suck….
have you eliminated all dairy and soy proteins from your diet? my son was in a lot of pain on a high zegerid dose until i put him on neocate.
AnonymousInactive
Okay Everyone,
I need some clarification or insight on this. Kate’s main symptom of reflux is her trouble eating at the breast. She’s been on 30mg of prevacid for three weeks with little change.
She has good feeds and bad feeds. The cruddy ones don’t really have anything to do with the timing of the prevacid as I can tell because I know it can cause yucky cramping in some kiddos. The thing is, she starts out kind of whining, pulling off, crying, and then is usually fine. Is this reflux? I’m starting to wonder just because if her throat hurt, wouldn’t it keep hurting not get better as the feeding continued? She refluxes all throughout the day, gagging back spit up, but doesn’t seem to be in any major discomfort besides the feeding. Also, sometimes I think she’s hungry so I try and feed her and she does that same behavior when she’s swallowing but then I take her off sometimes(thinking she’s not really hungry)and she’s fine and happy. If she was hungry wouldn’t she still be upset?Also, is it normal for a baby not to be hungry but still want to nurse, just not want milk? I’m sorry if these questions sound silly but this is my first breastfeeding experience and I’m just sort of confused. Maybe she’s not really in pain anymore, I’m just feeding her when she’s not hungry
Anyway, if you have any ideas, I would appreciate it!
I’m starting to doubt myself…
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I need help! Peyton has started this restless sleeping the last week or so. It usually starts around midnight until 5 or whenever we get up. He will grunt and moan constanly, draw his legs up, and squirm, squirm, squirm! He looks like he in pain and he cries out sometimes. He doesn’t wake up and is breastfeeding every 2 hours. I’m sure he is refluxing. I change his positioning to find out if it will make him more comfortable but no luck. I hate seeing him unable to rest comfortably, and I hate not being able to sleep either of course. He will sleep a couple of minutes and then start all over again, it is so frustrating. He was doing ok with nighttime sleep, getting up to feed and going right back to sleep…I miss those days 🙂
He is on Prilosec 1 ml /day, I’m sure that’s low. Oh, he doesn’t do this during his daytime naps. Thanks
Aby
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She was actually saying that if I switched to Similac Advance we would know almost immediately if it disagreed with him. In her opinion she just doesn’t think neocate is necessary. We started with breastfeeding, then similac advance, then similac soy, now ailementum. I really trust in my ped., but also realize more is learned from experience than elsewhere so I really appreciate this forum. Will read that article this weekend…thanks so much!
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I know that the thickening is controversial. Unfortunately, it is the only thing that has really helped. He was losing weight in the very beginning when I was breastfeeding. So, I went to pumping and did that for 7 weeks (had to stop b/c I also have a 3 year old who was not getting any attention b/t pumping and the length of time it took to give him a bottle). Then, we switched to fomulat b/c he seemed to do better with that. He continued to arch his back and scream through every feeding, though.
Pretty much as soon as we started thickening his feeds he improved. It was like night and day–he became a calm, happy baby. But, now I’m worried about all of the “risks” with adding the cereal (weight gain, diabetes, etc…). That’s why I was curious about the simply thick since it didn’t add calories.
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Alright on the vitamin D thing I have to agree with Natalia on this one it is a bunch of crap. They tried to push the vitamins on me with at my very first appointment with Evie. I don’t understand it because if I am getting enough vitamin D so should she.
As for the feeding thing well Iam not one for schedules. Both of my girls are comfort nursers and I let them eat whenever they want. Now I would NEVER wake them up to feed them. Like you said they hardly get enough sleep with the reflux anyway. As I remember my oldest Bella was eating fairly often and still waking at night to eat until she was weaned at a little over a year. With my newborn Evie she seems to think if she is awake needs to eat. And with her reflux that is alot! You just need to do what works for you and Amelia (I love her name). To me there is only so much a Dr. can tell you to do. But then I do alot of things they say not to like letting my girls sleep on their tummys and co-sleep! 
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omg! cio is cruel to begin with, but to let a reflux baby cio?! wow….that is so cold….
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Thanks Laura and Natalia! Natalia, I appreciate the links! And Laura, so happy to hear Ari (and you!) are getting good sleep! It’s a wonderful thing! Amelia has been sleeping really well at night (also crossing fingers and toes not to jinx anything
)! She goes down around 7 and sleeps until at least 4! As of late she’s been waking at 2 or 3 but I can usually get her back to sleep. I probably don’t need to feed her when I do… she wakes and plays in her crib, but I hear her in the monitor and figure if I feed her she’ll go back to sleep and I can get more rest! This has worked well for now
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Perhaps she does better at night because she is a terrible napper! Usually only 30 minutes at a pop. I just ran into my neighbor today who said her son has reflux and she let him “cry it out” for naps and now he naps well! UGH! I don’t know if I can do that… I just wouldn’t know for sure if Amelia was in pain or if she is just resisting… that may be a good subject for another post…
As for the vitamin D, I will bring it up at my next Ped appointment, but as Natalia said, I think Amelia is getting everything from my breast milk.