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OMG! Again, you sound so much like me. Even down to the mucousy green diapers or the runny yellow ones or the stains on the diaper and nothing more… the horrid feedings, all of it. I KNOW what you feel like ,and I know how hard it can be to just pick up that baby and try again, when it seems like there are other “easy” answers out there like formula and bottle feeding. I considered them all, believe me, and you should totally do what you need to do to survive. There was a time when Ben even started totally refusing to eat, altogether, and I would try to do it by hanging my breast over him while he was in the bouncy seat.. or nursing him while holding him upright in front of me while standing … a sorry sight to see, let me tell you.
In all honesty, after doing the TED for as long as I have (and now it’s mostly a MSPI diet, as I’ve added most back in), I don’t even know if the diet helped Ben. Because of my OAL and his reflux, much of his discomfort went away as he got older. Not what you want to hear, I’m sure, but it just took him getting older, his body and digestive system maturing, etc. I know you are trying to do everything and anything to help your little one, but if you don’t see a definite improvement in 2-3 weeks on the TED, well… if I could do it all over again, let’s just say I would have quit the diet long ago. The gurgling in his belly stopped at around 3 1/2-4 months and that’s also when his “colic” in the evenings subsided as well. I don’t think anything but plain old age had a hand in that. This is also about the time that his bowel movements got a bit more “normal.” This was all about 2 months after I had been on the TED, so if the diet was helping, it should have done a bit more before then, right??
My daughter also had reflux, not nearly as severe as Ben’s, but I was working then, so I pumped BM bottles for her, and nursed her in the mornings and at night. I know, without a doubt, that the milk she got from those bottles kept her weight up. She struggled so much at the breast that she wasn’t gaining weight well. And she still struggled with the bottles, but not quite as much. That being said… she was NEVER properly medicated and her weight was a constant issue. Ben also struggled at the breast, but gained weight like a sumo wrestler.. so going to a bottle for him just didn’t make as much sense.. not to mention he wouldn’t take one anyway.
Anyway.. I’ve totally rambled here, but I’ve said all I’ve said above to say…. HANG IN THERE. I swear it gets better. Take it day at a time and, while it seems totally impossible at times, try your best to enjoy your baby….
Bensmama 2007-5-29 15:38:47 Claire,
I also understand how you feel. I cried so much Caden’s first 3 months of life that everyone thought I had have post-partum depression (I didn’t). I was just SO worried about him, stressed about whether I was doing the right thing by continuing to nurse, etc.
I seriously considered weaning him (not just once but many times) on those days when he was fighting nursing and appeared uncomfortable. Somehow emotionally I couldn’t do it. I just didn’t want to lose that special bond with him, and for him sometimes nursing was a real comfort (when he was having a good day), and I couldn’t take that away from him.
However, if he had not had those good nursing times and was getting worse not better, I think I would have eventually gone to bottle feeding just for my own sanity.
Everyone has an opinion about breastfeeding. But, in the end you just have to do what feels right to you. It’s not always possible to know the outcome until you try something.
For me sticking with nursing was the right thing to do, but in a different situation it might not be. And, my baby was never severe like some others on this site, so I honestly don’t know what I’d have done in those situations.
Whatever you decide, you are a wonderful mom and are doing the best you can given the situation. That’s all you can do. You can be proud of yourself no matter what.
Now that I can look back on my situation, I can see that. I know that when you’re in the middle of it, you just want to fix it! And being sleep-deprived and flooded with post-partum hormones doesn’t help you see your situation very clearly
I will say a prayer for you today. Your baby sounds similar to mine, and man if I could have figured out what was bothering Caden, I would have done almost anything to fix it. I just about starved doing TED for weeks to no avail. It was so hard. In the end, just time was the only thing that helped him.
Kate’s Mommy wrote:
This poor kid. I hope she turns out to be well adjusted despite all this drama.Claire
Hang in there Claire…Katie will be fine. I can speak from experience. My oldest child went through hell literally as a baby and now he is a pretty mellow great 16 year old. He had acid reflux severely as a infant and toddler. He would projectile vomit a zillion times a day. Heck when we went any where I swear I had to pack a suit cases with clothes for him and me because of the vomiting he did. He did gain wait but it was because he would over eat to make up for it. He was hospitalized at 7 weeks for sleep issues on top of the acid reflux. It was not until he was 4 months old and we saw this pediatrician (my husband was in the military so we had a whole string of doctors) any this pediatrician greeted me with, Hi how is are baby from Hell. Now most mother’s would have been offended…but for me it was FINALLY someone who can understand what I am going through. He was tons of help and so was the next dr. we were permanently placed with. Of course this was before the Internet and it was so hard doing research on what I should and should not be doing etc. Okay I digress. My point was…she will survive and be a stronger person. You will make it through it.
well I personally think pumping is a pain in the rear, so I would probably just breastfeed and see what happens…
the ‘first’ kind of reaction would be the feeding about 3-5 hours after you ate your meal…
then I’d say give it 2 weeks to clear out your system/baby’s system
but unless I saw drastic results from breastfeeding, I’d do it (i’m THAT lazy
)…Hi
I’ m really new to this board and it’s been such a huge lifesaver to me so I’m glad you found it. Your situation sounds so identical to mine except Kate, my daughter is still breastfeeding and it’s still really hard. she is gaining weight like a champ which I think misled our first two peds(we’re on our third, a good one I think!)to tell me it was colic. I don’t think so. She is also a really happy baby. LOVES to be on her back(changing table, play), and sleeps on her back pretty well now in her bassinet.(she’s on 30mg of prevacid and she definatley has some food allergy so I’m doing TED. Fun!)Her problems circle all around feeding and poop. She shows many Sandifer symptoms during a feed though because she’s in so much pain. It’s funny, I knew she was acting funny but the previous docs dismissed my concerns that her behavior was seizure like. Now that I know it has a name it makes me furious.
Anyway, I’m still trying to stick with bf but it’s hard. I have OALD too which makes everything worse. We’ve got everything! Anyway, she has the same behaviour though as your daughter in that she’ll sporatically scream, stiffen, whimper, twitch(Sandifer’s), pulloff the breast bla,bla,bla the list goes on. I kind of forgot what my point was because I’ve been rambling(oh, Kate chokes, coughs, spits-up, and hiccups constantly too)…oh! I just wanted to let you know to stick with your instinct when you think somethings up. I’ve learned that the hard way.The other ladies are right too in sticking with one thing for awhile. It’s hard to wait it out but I tried so many things at once so when Kate showed a little relief, I had no idea what it was from.Plus, it takes time for stuff to show it’s working. Anyway, there’s hope. You’re here, and you’ll find a ton of great info and support which is so critical when our kiddos are suffering.Oh and also, it is so confusing when your baby is mainly happy but also sooo miserable sometimes.
Kate also throws up so much all day it surprises me every time she gets weighed and gains. i swear i hold my breath every time. It was so comforting for me to read your post because it sounds so much like Kate
Feel free to send me a private message because it always helps to vent. Good luck! I hope your sweet baby gets relief soon, she will!Oh also, sorry, make sure you feel good about your ped too. It’s so important to feel comfortable and confident in their ability to help your baby. We again learned that from this forum so i just kept on switching till we found a great one thank goodness!I feel so much more willing to ask my millions of questions without feeling like they think I’m crazy. I’m so neurotic though I’m sure they’ve already flagged my file
My mom didn’t know she was PG with me until she was 4 mo along… Of course that was 30 years ago before tests and ultrasounds etc. They thought I would be born in June, but I was born 5 weeks early, that’s how far off they were in predicting a date!
Funny now!Anyway, my sis and I are 11 mo and 1 week apart.
My sister did the same thing and we always said it would never happen to us! She has 2 girls 1 yr and 9 days apart!
Both were “breastfeeding accidents!”
Let’s just say I’m keeping my legs crossed it won’t happen to me!!!
Sorry this is so long. He said I have a happy spitter. He said he does not care if she spits up 100 times a day. As long as she gains. So this is what he wants to do. He took her of the cereal in her formula. We go back in a week. We will weigh her if she lose we will talk about what to do. If she gained he will take her of the Prevacid. He does not think she has reflex and if she does it is not bad at all. I just have this feeling something is wrong. I can’t get reid of this feeling. My husband had a Hernia at birth. Can she have one because he had one? Today she has been fusses.
This is what I told him. What do ya’ll think she has from what I said?
I breastfeed for the first two weeks she did fine. Then I could not breastfeed and had to stop. We put her on Similac Advance with iron ready to feed. She did fine for alittle while then she started to spitting up. The Dr said that some baby’s can not handle the ready to feed to try the powder. Well again she did ok for a little while. This is the symptoms she started with spitting up alot. Coughing and gagging all the time and hicups alot. Wanting to eat all the time. So I brought her in to the Dr. She said to thicken her formula with one to two teaspoons of cerel per oz. So that did fine for a few weeks. Then she started crying for no reason. The only way to make her stop crying was to feed her. I could hear her stomach making sounds and stuff coming up but nothing would come out. She would make funny faces. Like in pain. I called the Dr and she said I had a fussy baby. So we changed Dr’s. The other one did not want to do anything. That was about 5 weeks old (3-16-07). Then they put her on liquid Zantac 0.5 ml three times a day. With the same formula and putting 1 tablespoon of cerel per oz. That worked for about a month. Then she started throwing up again and screaming once in the middle of eating. So they uped her Zantac to 0.8ml three times a day and soy formula. As long as she was on the ready to feed she was ok. They gave me ready to feed samples at the Dr’s office. I tried her on the concentrated and powder. That made it worst. I brought her back in. (4-18-07) She had a rash. It was like dry spots. I asked the Dr what it was he said eczema . Well then they put her on Prevacid 1/2 a pack and Similac Alimentum which was going really good as long as she was on the ready to feed. Again the Dr’s office give me that as samples. Well after putting her on this formula the rash / eczema went away. Then I did not know you were suppose to give her the Prevacid 30 mins to a hr before eating and that you have to get all the white beeds. So I started doing that. So Then I went to get my WIC and found out they would not pay for the ready to feed and they do not make concentrate and they only get the powder in the Similac Alimentum. So they put her on the concentrated Nutramigen and added a tablespoon of rice per oz. of formula. Now this formula she is having a hard time with gas. She now pulls her little legs up all night. She is still throwing up like CRAZY. So I went back in. ( 5-7-07) He said he does not think she was getting her meds right. Here is what he wants to do. He did put her on the Prevacid SoluTabs 15 mg in am dissolve by month. I ask if I can try Oatmeal cerel and he said yes. Also I found a new formula that just came out called Similac Advance Sensitive R.S. He said I could try it if I wanted to. I did for a day or so and she still spit up so I went back to the concentrated Nutramigen. I have been going back and forth with the rice and oatmeal cerel. Her gas is getting better with the gas drops now. It seems like she can only handle the ready to feed in any formula. She does worst on the powder and concentrated. On the ready to feed it so thick. It is like honey or something it is so thick. I hold her up after eating for 15 to 30 mins. She is always in her swing. She sleeps on her back. Loves to play on her back all day. She hates to be on her stomach. She does not cry or scream when she is on her back. Never has. She sleeps all night without waking up. She just coughs and chokes sometimes in her sleep. Now she will be taking a nap during the day and just cry out for no reason. She is drools alot. Still sleeps all night. She likes to be held. She has stopped crying in the middle of eating. Now she crys when you try to burp her and gets stiff like a board and that is not every feeding. I give her the bottle cold now that I am giving her concentrated. When she was on power it was room temp. The concentrated is really thick sometime and thinner other time. I donot know what is up with that. I make it like it says. She was on nursey water . I took her off of it because they said the floride can cause gas and spitting up. I put her on regular Ketwood water. Maybe there is a little different and maybe not. I tried to give her the formula without the cerel over the weekend and she did ok.
It is getting so frustrated. I hate to see her like this. She throws up all over the place. I really do not understand she is a VERY happy baby. She laughs and smiles all the time even when she throws up or spits up.
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