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My best guess is that it has to do with his reflux and the Prilosec has not had time to start working yet. Refusing to eat or fighting the breast or bottle is a classic sign of reflux. Frequent waking in pain is also a symptom of reflux. Laura’s idea about a little Mylanta before feeding is a good idea. I’d stick with the Prilosec and give it time to work. It takes about two weeks for most babies.
can you get to a LLL meeting? or a local lactation consulatant?
http://www.kellymom.com is an excellent breastfeeding resource
AnonymousInactive
Hi again,
A few more thoughts….
When my son was first born he filled his pants after almost every feeding. (My girls did, too). Later he began to poop much less, but he probably wasn’t actually constipated. I talked to his doctor at his two month check up and she said that newborns poop ALOT because of their immature digestive system, but as they grow and their digestion improves they poop a lot less. She also said that it is normal for breast fed babies to move their bowels only twice per week. So, maybe he’s not actually constipated? If his stool consists of little round balls, or is very hard, then that would be considered consitpation.
Yes, I would stick with the Prevacid for at least the two weeks to see if it works. What were his symptoms that lead to him being put on Prevacid?
Myles used to pass gass constantly, too. I was constantly checking his pants thinking he needed a diaper chage. He outgrew that at around 4 or 5 months.
From what I’ve read it’s quite common for babies who are both breast fed and bottle fed to perfer the bottle. You may want to nurse him more and bottle feed him less if you want to continue nursing, so that his preference for the bottle doesn’t become even stronger.
AnonymousInactive
Thanks for the replies! To answer your questions…
My son is breastfeeding. However, I do suppplement with Enfamil LIPL. I asked my doctor about changing formulas, and he said don’t change yet. I also tried the Enfamil GentleEase, but the baby does not like that formula. No cereal yet.
He is not the best breastfeeder. He seems to like the bottle much better (pumped or formula). My oldest son seemed to have an easier time nursing.
I am not sure if mspi is an issue???? i stopped eating dairy when he was a coulpe of weeks old (before I was supplementing with formula). It did not seem to make a difference.
The constipation started within 4 days of starting the Prevacid. We actually started taking Zantac a few days before the Prevacid, but it tasted terrible. So we switched to Prevacid.
The child passes gas all day and night. You would think he would not be constipated.
Maybe I just need to wake a few more days.
Karla2006-7-2 15:43:23
yes! I have a success story!
welcome
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please read my welcome/intro and book mark it
!! https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=853&am p;am p;PN=1&TPN=1
from the link above please read ‘prevacid 101’ and from there you can learn about CARACREAM and see if that’s a possibility for your baby & then you truly don’t have to worry about 30 minutes or not…
also, maybe it’s his formula? are you breastfeeding? again, from the link above you can read all about GERD and the causes, also check on the link about MSPI!
Ok, I’ve given you enough to do
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glad you found us!
~laura
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Hi. I formula feed alimentum. No breastfeeding. Yesterday, we heard some wheezing and gurgling. They both spit up almost at the same time. They aren’t getting the prevacid. Lots of white beads stay in the bottle and nipple. We don’t think they are getting enough of their meds, so we can’t tell if it’s helping or not. I am so depressed. I cry so much now, and I don’t sleep.
prevacid isn’t harsh…if it helps (I hope it’s a good dose) then you will see your boys sleep…
what formula are they on? are you breastfeeding? whatever it is it might be bothering them as well…
Robyn,
you really should post over at the yahoobreastfeedingreflux site
also, you might want to give the elimination diet at least 2wks…
and, it might even be the rice…erg…
so maybe continue w/ what you’ve been eating and try cutting out rice, gluten, wheat for 2wks & see if that helps? then try the elimination diet?
you *might* have to go to neocate- you can ask for an endoscopy to check for EOS cells – if they are presnet after 2 months of no dairy or soy proteins, it is significant…
again, pleasepost over on the yahoo group, as well as reading through all of the info via the mspi link (there’s a section about the elimination diet, etc), from my welcome/intro…
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I’m hoping to get some feedback from those of you who may have done an elimination diet or have babies on Neocate.
Isaac has slient reflux…. has had on and off green, mucousy poops, and more recently has been testing positive for blood in his stools.
I elminated soy/dairy almost 2 months ago… and really eliminated it. I am an avid label reader, rarely eat processed or packaged foods, and stopped eating out. Things were not getting better. Then his stools started testing positive for blood. His ped is pushing us to put him on Neocate. I started the Dr. Sears elimination diet on Sunday (so am eating only turkey- uh!- I hadn’t eaten meat in 16 years until, potato, green/yellow squash and pear). At his appt. on Wed, we agreed with his ped that if this did not work in 10 days, we would try the Neocate. His ped has tried to be very supportive of breastfeeding, but I think he now thinks I”m crazy. Anyways- he said on WEd. that I would need to be prepared that if this works, I would need to stay on this diet for at least a couple of months so Isaac’s digestive system could heal. He said that the Neocate allows his digestive system to completely rest and heal up.
What I’m wondering from others, is : 1. Has anyone had success getting rid of blood in stool from food elimination? Beyond soy and dairy? 2. Were you able to add other food back in and when? 3. Were you able to prevent going on formula?
I do not want Isaac to have to go on formula if I can at all prevent it, but I don’t know if I can do this diet for months…
I read all of the links from Laura’s intro… which was very helpful… but I’m wondering if there is any current people that have more feedback.
THANKS!!!!
AnonymousInactive
Thanks everybody!
Our doctor is on vacation so I can’t ask about the Miralax or Lactulose until next Wednesday. For now I am going to try some of your good ideas, warm water, sugar water, brown sugar and water. He’s just so darn stubborn about any liquid intake. I have to trick him or distract him and then squirt it in, and he’ll often get mad and spit it out or gag and barf. It’s so frustrating. And to be honest, I really am sick and tired of spoon feeding this kid liquid slop every day. I wish he’s just take a bottle or cup.
I ordered some apple fiber juice, too. Of course, it will only help if I can get him to drink it.
I’m also going to try to reduce his cereal intake. It will be difficult to spoon feed even thinner breast milk than I have been, but I have to do something to help him.
Lori, he is only getting 5-6 ounces of soy right now. The rest is breast milk. I am trialing Carnation Good Start and hopefully if he tolerates it I will stop the soy in the next few weeks. Thanks for the tip about lactulose. I’ll ask the doctor about it next week.
Karen, I did buy straw cups yesterday and so far he just loves chewing on them and but hasn’t figured out to how to suck on them yet. Maybe with time he’ll get it. I’m hoping one day I can pour some fiber juice in his straw cup and he will actually drink it.
Thais, Thanks for the info on Miralax. I was afraid it was a stimulant type laxative, but it sounds much safer other, than the liquid intake which is always a problem around here. I’ll talk to the doc next week about it.
Tricia, the sugar water sounds simple and if it works – GREAT, easy solution. I’m going to try that first.
Thanks everyone.
Christine
put them in touch w/ marci-kids!!!! spread the word!!
& let them know about how doctors will tell a mother to stop breastfeeding!!! I’ll talk to them!! BIG pet peeve of mine- STRONGER than a PET PEEVE!!! A MAJOR AGGREVATING ANNOYANCE!!!!!!!!!!! there are a LOT of things that can be tried/evaluated before a mother *might* have to stop!!!!!!!!!!!!
AnonymousInactive
Hi everybody,
Myles is doing really well these days…reflux improving, increase in mobility, happy temperment, etc. The only problem is that he is becoming increasingly constipated.
Since about two months of age I noticed sluggish bowels and probable dge/low motility, but his stools were always soft despite his having to push hard to pass them. 
Now in the last few weeks his stools are becoming harder and more of the “pebbles” characteristic of constipation.
I just don’t know what to do.
I know that increasing his fluid intake would likely help but he will not take a sippy cup and he drinks only one two to three ounce bottle at 4pm and one six ounce bottle at bedtime. The rest of his feedings consist of breast milk or soy formula mixed with oatmeal and spoon fed. Probably too much bulk, but what can I do if he won’t drink anything? He also eats approx 3 jars of fruit or veg daily. I give him flax seed oil daily and prunes most days. None of this seems to be working, though it did help initially.
Here are my questions:
Does Prevacid cause constipation?
What is Miralax? Have any of you had success with it? Can it be used long term? Any nasty side effects?
Do you think I should replace one of his breast milk/oatmeal feedings with fiber juice or some other juice? I’d have to mix it with oatmeal and spoon feed it because he won’t drink it. My concern is that this would reduce his breast milk / formula intake to 14 – 15 ounces a day.
Any other suggestions?
I really appreciate any advice you may have. Thanks.
AnonymousInactive
Hi Tracy,
Hmmm….that’s interesting (and very reassuring) about the brain growth first, followed by height and weight. I didn’t know that.
I’m sorry he’s still refusing rice. The feeding clinic idea with the two bowls sounded brilliant to me. I’m so sorry it didn’t work.
To tell you the truth, I’m surprised they even want him to have rice considering the constipation problem. I know he had problems with oatmeal a few months back and your’re not supposed to try it again until 10 months, but considering the fact that he won’t eat the rice and that he’s only one month away from 10 months, maybe it would be o.k. to try it. He’d be getting such a small amount initially anyway. Maybe he’s smarter than all of us.
How much cereal is he actually getting in each bite? I would make it so he can barely even notice it at first. Maybe you are already doing this but, this is how I did it with my girls who did not like plain cereal at all. I would mix one tablespoon of cereal with breast milk or forumla (I don’t remember how much milk or formula, but enough to make it creamy, not too thick), and then I’d dump one stage one jar of food right on top of it and mix it very lightly. The amt. of cereal is so little that they barely noticed it. After a few days or a week, I’d increase it to 1 1/2 tablespoons of cereal mixed with breast milk or formula and add the jar of food. Every couple of days I’d add 1/2 to 1 tablespoon of cereal until they began to accept it more readily. My girls never liked cereal plain but they did begin to eat larger amts of cereal with their fruit or veg mixed in so that in time they were getting plenty of cereal.
With some of the babies I used to take care of as a nanny, I used to make the cereal in a bowl and then have another bowl with the fruit or veggie that they like. I’d put a tiny bit of cereal on the spoon and then scoop up lots of the fruit or veg on top of it so when the spoon goes in the mouth they immediatley taste the familiar fruit or veg. This worked well with some of the babies. Eventually I could put more cereal on the spoon and less fruit or veg and they’d eat it as they became more accustomed to the taste and texture of the cereal.
From my experience as a nanny and with my own is that they only needed a handful of good experiences with getting it down before they would begin to accept it regularily.
The only other thing I can think of if he won’t eat any cereal is maybe try putting it in his bottle.
I’m so sorry you’re having such a hard time with his feedings. I can only imagine how frustrating it must be. I wish I had better words of wisdom or some kind of magic trick for you. Hopefully it will get better soon.
Christine
AnonymousInactive
Hi Tracy,
Sorry it’s not going better with his cereal. They sure can be stubborn! Myles is so resistant about the things he dislikes; like bottles, sippy cups, or new foods. He won’t eat any finger foods yet except puffy, dissolve type foods.
To answer your questions, he’s 29.5 inches tall and 20.5 lbs. Skinny compared to my other two at this age.
His daily intake now consists of about 14 ounces of breast milk, 4-5 ounces of soy formula, 2/3 – 1 cup of oatmeal, and 3 -4 jars of baby food per day. I’m trying to give him some juice for his sluggish bowels but he flatly refuses so now I am spoon feeding him about an ounce a day of white grape juice. What a PITA!!
Myles was 8 lbs at birth and chunked up fast, too. Now his weight gain has slowed a lot, but he’s not under weight, thank God.
I sure hope Ian begins to accept some cereal. I know you must be very frustrated and worried about him. Before I discovered that I could spoon feed Myles his breast milk I thought he’d end up on a g-tube because he would not take his bottles. It’s just plain weird. With him it’s not a taste issue and it’s not reflux pain, so why won’t he drink a bottle?
At least he’s eating. So, I guess I shouldn’t complain. The problem is that he gets too much cereal and not enough fluid, and I don’t really know what I can do about it.
How much does Ian weigh and how tall is he? I hope he likes the cereal with sweet potato tomorrow.
Christine