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Hi Kristy. Since you’re having trouble with flow and he has trouble with bottles, you might try breastflow bottles by First Years http://www.learningcurve.com/breastflow
.
I haven’t used them but several good friends use them with their babies and love them. Good luck!
I would take things one thing at a time. right now concentrate on the medication. he is eating to soothe himself, most likely. you’re breastfeeding, right?
anyway: the prilosec should kick in – it might take up to 14 days. might. you may see it working sooner.
BUT unless you are using Bufferbabies, I rather doubt that the prilosec you have is made correctly. I hate to be a bummer, but it’s the truth 9.8 times out of 10…I would contact marci-kids and find out proper dose and get Bufferbabies
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Dr.
Philips: phillipsjo@health.missouri.edu
Office Phone: (573) 884-0672
stockd@missouri.edu is the contact person for Buffer
Babies
573-884-0672
Prevacid 101 (has prilosec info, too, and link for zantac dosing too)- go to last post- it’s purple:
https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1936&PN=0&TPN=1
hellbennt2010-01-10 14:15:52
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and reflux.
Hello all,
if your child has very slow motility and you have tried given, reglan, and erothyminthin (sp?) with little improvement, you might want to talk to your doctor about Domperidone. It’s not FDA approved, but is still legal to sell in the US. Also there is much controversy of why the FDA has not approved it (versus approving reglan, which i will not advise anybody to take such drug). The doctor can also prescribe it to help reflux issues by helping the stomach to move its contents faster into the intestine and therefore reducing the regurgitation pain.
Please read all the info below and see if Domperidone might be worth a try. After 2.5 years of fail treament to treat my dd’s gastroperasis, her Dr. has finally prescribed this med and i’ll let you know how it goes. For what i heard from other patients who are using it, it had improved their symptoms greatly (some of these patients have been on reglan and erothy before domperidone).
If you want your doctor to call in a prescription below is a list of places in the US that sell it and many will ship it to you. Also, there is valuable info regarding the medication.
dosage recomendation:
A medical article stating evidence of significance improvement of symptoms of DGE by using domperidone.
I hope this info help you help your little one.
Leo
kendramom2010-01-08 11:18:21
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I feel your pain. My DD, now 9 month and still take reflux meds, was a night feeder for about 6 months, and was and still is a horrible sleeper due to reflux.
From our experience, we started her on 7mg/a day at 3 month old and that did NOTHING for her. We then increased it (we did it ourself after reading Marci kids website) to 15 mg once a day. That helped quite a bit in her eating. She went from drinking 10 oz a day to around 16-18oz a day. Still had issues with frequent wakings so we gave her 7mg before her last bottle at night. that helped significantly until for some reasons she became immuned to prevacid for a while.
ANyway, I never stop breastfeeding her. I omit all diary and soy products out of my diet, and that help a lot with her constant crying. From what I know, Breastmilk is the best for babies with reflux and MSPI.
good luck.
AnonymousInactive
Hey helpforshermie…
It’s been a long time, but just wondering how things are going for you guys? I actually ended up getting an allergy test done on our guys. I know they aren’t totally conslusive, but it did confirm he has an issue with dairy as well as a couple of other things. Anyway, would love to hear how things are progressing for you. We are having a really rough week and I would love to be more connected with other moms!
Kristy
AnonymousInactive
So, we are on Day 5 of Neocate. We transitioned from an unsuccessful 8 week trial of FULL T.E.D. Last night, the ‘before bed’ feeding was awful. DS refluxed the whole time and I could barely get an ounce in him (he’s on marci max dose of BB and NEVER refused the breast like this). Then he slept for 7 hrs (?) and took his 4 am bottle fine, his 7 am bottle fine but fought his 10 am bottle. Just kind of wondering how bad everyone’s reflux got during the transition. When will reflux improve and when will his intake increase? I feel like it’s REALLY flaring now and I’m frightened of developing a bottle aversion before this 2 week healing period can happen. He’s drinking like 12-15 oz. a day (plenty of wet AND messy diapers though and weight gain has never been an issue—3 mos/14.5 lbs.). I guess it’s worth mentioning that lots has improved since the transition. He’s sleeping better and is SO much less squirmy. BM’s are almost mucous free! Your thoughts?
P.S. Ignore my siggy. It’s totally inaccurate!
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hi &
welcome
!
you’ve
found a great place!
the key to
all of this is RESEARCH and, of course, support!
I have a LOT TO SAY! and most of
it is here:
Groupie Intro:
https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=853
there
is even a link from Groupie Intro for finding a dr near you.
(Anyone
else reading this who has not posted their dr on that link: PLEASE do, as it
helps others! the good AND the bad…thanks
!!)
Groupie Intro is
looong, but PLEASE read/skim/scroll
through it & refer back to it, as it TRULY will help you!
next, you’ll want to visit:
http://www.marci-kids.com, this site is run by the researchers who are at the FOREFRONT
of research of PPI use and dosing in infants/todders. You will want to
start there to see if PPI dose is ‘proper’
then,
hop back here to learn HOW to get that proper dose, if need be, and what FORM of PPI and HOW to administer…
Prevacid
101(last post on the page): https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1936&PN=0&TPN=1
unfortunately,
the majority of drs & pharmacists don’t know…babies metabolisms’ are much
faster than adults, so the drugs work differently with them…
after
medication, you might then want to look at diet…
so glad you
found us!
~laura
ps: when you
get a moment, please go to the upper right-hand corner of this screen and click
on ‘settings’ and from there you can edit your signature and let us know how
old baby is, what formula or breastfeeding, MSPI or not, what meds and
what doses and form of meds and how you’re administering-thanks!
hellbennt2010-01-03 19:47:57
AnonymousInactive
Hi, I’m new to this site.. And although I’ve found some extremely helpful suggestions from fellow suffering mama’s, I just thought I’d make my OWN post to see if I can get some specific H.E.L.P!!!!
My daughter is 4 months old and has been suffering with reflux for about 3 months now. She was breastfed exclusively for the first month, and around 3 weeks I started noticing changes. She would arch her back and scream through the whole feeding, although acting ravenous and starving. We had our first trip to her pediatrician, only to be dismissed with the typical “it’s your diet” ordeal. After altering my diet for weeks, there was NO help. So I started supplementing with formula to ensure it was NOT my diet, as I already thought. However, after being switched formulas 4-5 times, she (nor I) found ANY relief from this. I knew it was not just gas. I did my own research and seen many other mom’s having the same troubles and they found out it was reflux. Her pediatrician started her on a very low does of Prevacid to start. It worked WONDERS for about a week, then it just failed to do anything for her. After this, she was put on Zantac (2x/day) and Reglan (4x/day). This was a miracle for about 3 weeks. Then, once again, it started failing us again. I called the doctor only to have her tell me she was growing out of it and needed a dosage increase (this happened twice) She is now taking Zantac (1ml 2x/day) and Reglan (0.7ml 4x/day w. meals) and it is showing absolutely NO change. After about 10-12 visits to her doctor (and she’s only 4 months old) Nothing is helping. She’s had an Upper GI done with nothing being shown except “SHE HAS REFLUX.” Well DUH.
I NEED HELP!!!! Her pediatrician does absolutely nothing and takes NONE of my suggestions to heart. I KNOW I am not just a worried first time mother, my daughter needs HELP! Feeding is supposed to be a relaxing, bonding time. Not complete hell for me and pain for my daughter.
She is scheduled for a Gastronitestinal Specialist at the end of the month.. but I want help NOW!!!
Please HELP 🙂 Any suggestions would be enormously appreciated!!!!

AnonymousInactive
I guess this is what children’s hospital of wisconsin uses as an aid to help “fatten” these kids up. I trust the GI doc, he is on the feeding team there. He said that people from all over the nation come to the hospital for their feeding clinic. Nice, it is in our backyard. Hopefully my little guy won’t need to go there anymore. He is eating better.
But the recommendation was 1 oz of heavy whipping cream to 7 oz of whole milk. This was after we found out he has no lactose intolerance issues or milk allergies. My little one seems to like it, it makes the milk sweet, which is closer to breast milk. It does help add on the calories!
AnonymousInactive
Hi all, I have been off and on here for some time now. My little one is now 13 months old and still having some problems. We all thought he had reflux as a baby – spitting up>30x/day, very colicky (I hate that word), and always congested. I am still breastfeeding him, trying to wean him (he is on whole milk and heavy whipping cream – his GI doctor gave me this concoction).
Well, he saw an allergy/asthma doctor yesterday and tested + for almonds and rice!! I remember trying the total elimination diet, but was not successful in doing it, because he still seemed fussy – could have been the rice maybe?!
He also got a RAST blood test done ,and some immune test done too. So, now he is off of his reflux meds, but on to another problem. He barely spits up anymore, but still congested and sick.
Anyone else have babies with food allergies – + skin tests? We go back next week.
I feel so bad for him, how much of his problems were allergy vs reflux??
AnonymousInactive
My son was MSPI and when we first started Neocate, he really refused the bottle and I was convinced that it was the taste. He went from being breastfed for 4+ months straight to Neocate b/c no one told me to wean slowly. The doctor tried to convince me that it certainly couldn’t have been the taste, his stomach was just small from not taking appropriate amounts for so long. Long story short, I got so fed up with trying to force him to take the Neocate.
My mother in law mentioned that she had to be given goats milk as a baby and my dad was also not able to take cows milk as a child. So, I just got the Meyenburg brand one day and added it to the Neocate and the first bottle he sucked down 5 oz like he was starving. He hadn’t taken more than 1-2oz per feeding before that time. I used 30%-40% goats milk and 60-70% Neocate– I would make about 24 oz per day and store it in a container b/c it was difficult to measure out otherwise. My doctor had a fit at first b/c he said goats milk did not have the fats that the brain needed to grow. He didn’t want me to do more than 30% goat milk. I watched him closely for the first 2-3 weeks and every cry or wimper, I thought oh this is a reaction to the milk, but we were successful and he was weaned to whole milk at around 14 months.
I know it’s not for everyone, and peds usually don’t recommend it, but I was desperate.
AnonymousInactive
We are new here, and reading everything we can to get up to speed with the diagnosis. At 6 days old, our new little girl stopped breathing while breast feeding. After trips to 3 hospitals including extended stays at different NICU’s, we have a diagnosis, Reflux. We have moved from H2’s to PPI’s (compound Prevacid). With Reglan, we have been stable for 2.5 months. We tried to replace Reglan for PED Eryth, and ended up with a non breathing episodes again (7 in 4 days). These episodes look different than our past ones:.
She starts off not breathing, eyes to the side, body stiff, leg shaking, lips quivering, drooling, then she starts to breath (grunting). This may go on for 1-3 minutes.
We recorded a video and showed it to our GI and her colleague. The GI’s did not come to the same conclusion. Our GI believed it was related to Reflux while her counterpart believed it was a seizure. We are now referred to a Neurologist to determine what’s next.
Our question:
Does this episode sound like Seizure or Sandifer’s.
thx,
Bonnie
BonnieW2009-12-19 13:52:36
please don’t listen to this doctor(?). you DO NOT HAVE TO STOP BREASTFEEDING if you don’t want to.
also it can take up to 14 days for you to see the full effects of the prevacid, so if you do not give the zantac, too, it’s as if your baby isn’t on ANY meds AT ALL. so give the zantac, too, making sure to space it 4hrs from the prevacid.
as for the prevacid: if you want to increase your baby’s dose on your own, you can ( I am NOT telling you to do this! YOU are the mama and must make your own, educated decisions!) by buying OTC prevacid. you can give the OTC prevacid in two ways:
1) give on empty stomach. open the capsule, sprinkle the beads onto a teaspoon of apple sauce, follow by a ‘meal’ 30 minutes later
2) go buy Bufferbabies and take the OTC prevacid and mix up your own batch of what turns into a liquid (compounded PROPERLY) PPI…this can be given at ANY time, w/o having to time around meals.
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hi
& welcome
!
you’ve found a great place!
the
key to all of this is RESEARCH and, of course, support!
You do not mention if your baby is in pain. If baby is in pain then medication is the way to go. It may or may not be your diet.
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some
signs of mspi (Milk Soy Protein Intolerance/Allergy- this would be if it was something in your diet- the main culprits are usually milk and/or soy protein)
are, but are not limited to:
poop:
watery
poops, poops that are NOT ‘normal breastfed baby poops (normal poops are
mustardy/yellow w/ ‘seeds’ that you can see), green poops (some green poops are
perfectly normal! just not all the time!), mucousy poops (stringy like the
inside of a banana peel, curdy like cottage cheese, looks like jelly, looks
like snot)
gas: foul-smelling, painful gas
grunting & straining to poop: looks like she’s
having difficulty passing a stool, but when it comes out it is soft
http://www.marci-kids.com is at the FOREFRONT
of research of PPI use and dosing in infants/todders. You might want to
start there to see if PPI dose is ‘proper’
then,
hop back here to learn HOW to get that proper dose, if need be, and what FORM of PPI and HOW to administer…
Prevacid
101(last post on the page): https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1936&PN=0&TPN=1
unfortunately
the majority of drs & pharmacists don’t know…babies metabolisms’ are much
faster than adults, so the drugs work differently with them…
after
medication, you might then want to look at diet…
I
have a LOT MORE TO SAY! and most of it is here: Groupie Intro: https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=853
it’s
looong, but PLEASE read/skim/scroll through it & refer back to it, as it
TRULY will help you!
so
glad you found us!
~laura
ps: when you
get a moment, please go to the upper right-hand corner of this screen and click
on ‘settings’ and from there you can edit your signature and let us know how
old baby is, what formula or breastfeeding, MSPI or not, what meds and
what doses and form of meds and how you’re administering-thanks!
hellbennt2009-12-15 17:08:50
AnonymousInactive
Hello
I am a mum of a 2,5 year old and a 7 week old girls.
My 7 week old Nadia suffers from Reflux. Her sickness has improved a lot since
1. she is on Gaviscon
2. i have changed my diet (breastfeeding)
3. we keep her upright
I cannot crack her sleep – ever since she was born she sleeps on me on
the sofa. Each time I put her down in her moses (even now we have
propped it up), she wakes up in 10 minutes, either bringing food up or
crying.
I have just bought ar pillow and hoping this will help.
I was just wondering whether you could share any advice, as I am getting no sleep and getting quite desperate now.
I have had no such problems with my first born girl, so i do not know how to deal with it.
I do not want to get in bad habits but we kidn of already have. I sleep
with the side light on, so I cna deal with her quicklly if she is sick.
And she sleeps on me.Not good at all.
Please please share some advice.
Thank you so much